How Good is Mo Sutton?

Posted by Brian Ewart on January 31, 2012 · Under Article, Maurice Sutton · 96 Comments 

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On Saturday, Villanova couldn’t keep it’s hyped starting center on the court. Mouphtaou Yarou played just 11 minutes against Marquette while picking up a number of quick fouls. His big-bodied understudy, Markus Kennedy, didn’t fare much better — he fouled out of the game with 13 minutes remaining. All of that meant one thing: more minutes for Maurice Sutton.

Sutton played 22 minutes in that game, scoring 11 points, grabbing 10 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 blocks. Half of his rebounds were on the offensive glass.

Sutton is the rare player who redshirted for a season without necessarily suffering any injury. That was four years ago, when Sutton was a skinny 6-10, 180lb forward/center who was recruited to Villanova to provide some height and front court depth. Now, Sutton is listed at 220lb, still less than 6-6 James Bell (who admittedly has the assistance of two metal rods to hold him to the ground).

Even before his performance against Marquette, some fans were calling for the senior to get more playing time. Afterward, the clamoring for an increased role has only been louder.

Sutton’s stats are hard to truly judge based on the small sample size. He averages just 6.4 minutes per game – which is actually down from the last two seasons where he played over 10 minutes per game. This season, he didn’t even get off of the bench in 7 of the Wildcat’s games and played one minute or less in 5 more.

Despite that, Sutton leads the team in field goal percentage, making 52.9% of his shots (but he has only taken 17 of them), he also makes 75% of his free-throws (but he has only taken 8 of them).

Raw statistics can’t possibly tell the whole story. Advanced statistics might very well be skewed as well, but they are potentially more reliable here.

Sutton is 7th on the team in points scored per minute played with 0.25 points per minute. Maalik Wayns is the team leader with 0.55 points per minute. When he is on the court, Wayns takes 28% of the team’s shots but Sutton has accounted for just 12.1% of the shots taken in his 96 minutes of game time.

In ORtg, a metric that determines a player’s offensive efficiency by dividing the points produced by the number of possessions that player has used, Sutton ranks first, producing an ORtg of 115.3. Maalik Wayns has an very strong ORtg of 111.9 — good enough for second place. He also leads in effective field goal percent with 52.9% despite having not even attempted a 3-point shot (James Bell is a close second with 52.8%).

When it comes to rebounding, no Wildcat has been more productive per-minute that Mo Sutton. He produces 0.333 rebounds per minute played, edging out Yarou with 0.312 and Markus Kennedy with 0.310. On the offensive glass he is second, grabbing 0.115 offensive boards per game, with Kennedy leading at 0.129 and Yarou coming in third with 0.111.

The little-used big man crushes his teammates in steals-per-minute, forcing 0.052 while number-2 was Kennedy with 0.037.

He comes in second in blocks per minute and third for (fewest) turnovers-per-minute.

With just 96 minutes under his belt in 2011-12 and more than halfway through the season, however, the validity of all of these numbers is perhaps questionable. Against a ranked opponent on Saturday, however, it certainly seemed as if he was validating those results. Per-minute, Sutton had 0.5 points, 0.455 rebounds, 0.23 offensive rebounds, 0.14 steals, and 0.09 blocks in that game.

Does the skinny big man from Maryland deserve more minutes?

Sutton’s per-minute production has been strong in small sample sizes so far this season. He is by-no-means superman, but he hasn’t been a liability on the court either. That all could change with a greater role being handed over, but isn’t it worth taking that chance?

He certainly has more basketball experience than Yarou and he is more mobile than Kennedy. He is a different type of player than the other Villanova forwards. Sutton isn’t as bulky, but he is quicker than Yarou and Kennedy and has good instincts on the court.

Sutton also won the Hoops Mania slam dunk contest — a mostly meaningless affair that he almost won by default as his teammates missed their attempts repeatedly. The meaning inherent in that fact is that Sutton may be the best offensive finisher of the group.

Lets also not forget that despite the fact that his school biography page lists him as a junior, Sutton is in-fact in his fourth year of school at Villanova. Jay Wright talks about senior leadership, but ultimately decreased the minutes of the one actual scholarship player in his fourth year.

We won’t know if Maurice Sutton has played his way into a bigger role until the next game against Pittsburgh on Sunday, but the numbers suggest that Jay Wright should consider it.

 

  • LM 92

    Another category (though non-statistical), but just if not more important that Mo leads the team in:
    EFFORT!

  • barry class of 57

    of course play him what do you have to losethe season post game is not going to happen/he has basketball instinits not like yarou/ he seems more capable

  • Jimdribble

    I would play him more. If I were coaching I would have us press full court more and put Sutton on the guy taking the ball out of bounds as he is tall and has a long wingspan. Or put him on the back of the press to block shots. All I know is that Jay should be playing 10 players and pushing the ball(because of our bad shooting)

    By the way with the schedule the way it is(we only play two games in 16 days) Jay should try to make a few changes and new wrinkles. And also taking care of the ball better. 

  • JOE

    there must be more to the story !  Like missing curfew on road trips ????

  • Hardcore fan

    I find it hard to believe that if malik has taken 28 percent of our shots that Sutton could even come close to approaching 12 percent of our shots.  Sutton has only taken half as many shots as malik.  Come on!

    Yes, I am all for Sutton playing more.

  • Hardcore fan

    Sorry , Sutton has taken half as many shots as Malik.  Come on!

  • LM 92

    must be a typo……maybe he’s taken 2.1% not 12.1%???

  • VU’85

    I would like to see Jay play all three bigs at the same time, plus Pinkston and Wayns.  Thsi would provide us with the best chance of rebounding the long range bricks that are continued to be shot.

  • Jim89

    This post is actually a lead in to the real question – How bad is Mouphtou Yarou?

    I don’t want to bash these kids, I love them all because they chose to play for my school.  But taking emotion out of the equation, for anyone to say Mo is quicker than the other bigs speaks volumes about the Mouph (and Kennedy but at least he’s got the excuse of being a freshman).  When you watch any of our bigs on defense, they are ALL stuck in molasses.  So being the quickest of a bunch of slow guys doesn’t mean he’s our best option against Big East caliber bigs.

    Mouph and Kennedy get more time because they are at least thick bodied.  (And if you were going to press JimD., then unless you have another big back for defense, you can’t put your shot blocker on the trigger man.)

    Another problem with our bigs is that they don’t or can’t play above the rim.

    Mo is a great emotional guy to have on the bench, but he’s just not good enough for this league.  But neither is Mouph (or Kennedy at this point).

    Personally, if I were running the program like a professional team, I wouldn’t play anyone over 6’6″ all that much.  But this isn’t the pro’s, so it is what it is.

    Now hopefully everyone over 6’6″ will read this post, get pissed off, and beat the ever living snot out of everyone left on the schedule!

  • Mmetor01

    excellent point.  put the kid on the floor!

  • Brian

    It is the percentage of shots taken “while the player is on the court.”

    I’ll clarify in the post.

  • Rick19

    I think the guy deserves far more minutes than he gets.  He should be part of the rotation.  Especially when they want to go zone.  We have watched team after team drop a guy inside the foul line to take unchallenged 12 foot jumpers.  With him in the lineup, it makes that a much more difficult shot because of his length.  And, he brings energy to the floor.  At times it can be misguided but this team needs a boost.  If we get it from him, so be it.

    That said, it would also likely be way off base to expect another performance like Saturday from him on a regular basis.  He had one game last year where he played great but then went back to performances that were more routine for him.

    But my vote would be that the guy should play more.  If he played more, he would get more experience and confidence and that could only help the team.  Especially with Mouph struggling the way that he is.

  • Hardcore fan

    I don’t know if you can state he is not good enough for this league.  He hasn’t played all year and posted a double double.  He is not good enough to be the center “piece” of a team but if on the court with another big body he is more than serviceable in his role.

    If another big is on the floor with him, his offensive rebounding would be the best on the team. He is the ONLY player on the team that has shown he is capable of defending the three point shot on occasion.   

  • Dom

    Glad to see Sutton get recognized.  Coach needs to start taking down the dog house.

  • Spot ck

    Good enough that he should have been the games MVP in our victory over Marquette!!
    We are losing to teams that don’t have our level of talent or the number of weapons we have!!
    Mo is our 3rd string center behind the semi-retired Mouph and the fading fast Kennedy!!
    Mo played a great ball game and deserves a ton of credit.(I’m not a MO fan).(Wasn’t).

  • Hardcore fan

    Brian, it would still be a misleading stat many of his shots are off offensive rebounds.  Free possessions. Similar scenario with Kennedy’s shots.

    Sorry, It was just something that caught my eye as impossible to believe.

  • Dom

    Good post Hardcore fan.

  • Dom

    Totally agree.  Good post Spot ck.

  • Brian

    That would still suggest that he is grabbing those offensive rebounds. Production through offensive rebounding is still production.

  • Dkozusko

    All I know is how cool it was that Marquette flubbed the inbound and turned over the ball near the end of the game when Mo was guarding the inbounds. Koz 67

  • Bill ’62

    I might be wrong on this, but didn’t the announcers during the Marquette game mention that Mo had finally recovered from a thumb injury?  Does anyone here know more about it?  Thanks.

  • Spot ck

    Bill,
    Not sure if it was operated on, It’s been an issue from the beginning of the season.
    In BB thumbs render you just about useless on offense.

  • Fact

    I did something with this last year. I came to the conclusion that Sutton isn’t as bad on offense as the perception.
    http://novafacts.blogspot.com/2011/08/using-advanced-stats-to-dig-deeper-into.html

  • Sandy

    Putting the question another way.
    If you were a college coach and saw a 6’11” player with very good quickness, the ability to run the floor, great shot blocking ability, good foul shot, decent mid range jump shot, and the ability to cover from the 3, 4, and 5 positions, would you not be a little bit interested?

  • Stall so hard

    Where are all the people that wanted to cut him after this year and free up a scholarship for an unproven freshman?

    I said at one point last year that Sutton was more important (although not necessarily more skilled, but even that is questionable at this point) to the team than Dom Cheek and got laughed at. I think someone asked if I even watched the games.

    Well, I rarely miss a Nova game and I’ve been watching hoops for a while now. In my mind Sutton is absolutely more important to the team than Cheek. The bottom line is this: while his ceiling was always limited by a wiry frame and mediocre hands (still much better than mouph…), Sutton fills several roles on this team that would be empty without him. He is easily the tallest player on the team, and has silly long arms. He creates mismatches for other teams on defense and provides a great compliment to the styles of our other two centers. He knows his role on the floor and doesn’t need the ball to be effective. Arguably the team’s best dirty work guy. Maybe he isn’t great on offense but he crashes the boards and finishes as well as anyone at the rim. And frankly, I enjoy watching dunks.

    A lot of people have recently called for Jay Wright to return to the old ways of recruiting slightly under the radar players with solid work ethic… how can you cut one of the only players on the team who fills that? Not to mention the oldest player on the team. To make way for a highly touted freshman? What kind of example does that set for the young guys? Simply out of the question if you ask me.

    I think too many young people grew up with the And1 mixtape era of basketball and they have no idea how to contribute without the ball in their hands. And a lot of fans judge a players talent just on box scores and highlights. Only one guy can shoot at a time. Only 5 players can take the floor, and everyone else needs to find a role and work hard. Every Dirk needs a Tyson Chandler!

  • LM 92

    SSH….you are correct. Many of us on this site were completely writing Sutton off in order to get another scholarship available next year. Excellent point.

  • Tommyboy

    OFF TOPIC:
    Zags reporting Jefferson will now wait until after his season to announce.

    SNY.tv reported that a source close to Jefferson’s recruitment said the 6-foot-7 Philly Friends Central forward would likely choose between Duke or N.C. State, and that he was leaning “60/40″ to Duke.
    Musgrove said no schools had been eliminated, which would mean Kentucky, Villanova, UConn and Ohio State are still alive.”

    Uh, what kind of math are they teaching over there at Friends?

  • Amile Jefferson Starship

    Where are all the people that wanted to cut him after this year and free up a scholarship for a Top 30 ranked 5-star forward who has a 7’0 wingspan that is being heavily recruited by Duke, Kentucky, Ohio State and NC State and was the leading scorer last summer at the elite NBAPA Camp?  

    FIXED.   

  • Spot ck

    Coaches still involved and talking regularly: Duke-NCS and Kentucky!!

  • Spot ck

    If Savon was still committed and we had a shot at AJ,it would be unfixed
    and MO would be exactly where he was last year.

  • Bill ’62

    Thanks, Spot ck.  If the thumb is no longer an issue, maybe we’ll be seeing more of Mo in upcoming games.  It may have been a contributing factor to his no-to-little playing time this season — let’s see how it goes from here on in.

  • Hardcore fan

    Was is it a fraternity hazing incident because it appears that most of the team has been playing with thumb injuries all year?

  • Hardcore fan

    No wonder we are having trouble landing top recruits and cuse is loaded.

    Court papers reportedly claim wife of ex-Syracuse basketball coach had sex with playersRead more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/31/court-papers-reportedly-claim-wife-ex-syracuse-basketball-coach-had-sex-with/#ixzz1l4L5Mndh

  • Spot ck

    “under the radar” and “solid work ethic” are not mutually conclusive!!
    Normally the best players have the most solid work ethic.
    We are looking for the best players.
    I realize you are just pointing out the opinions of some other posters.

  • Anonymous

    I think Mo earned some time with his fast-break tomahawk slam. 

    I think that he is our only big that can slam without getting blocked by the rim

  • Chris 81

    Before we annoint Big Mo as an offensive juggernaut, keep in mind most of his 12 point explosion was from tip ins and a dunk or two. I would hazzard a guess that the tips were somewhat lucky and could just as easily have bounced out, given our propensity for luck around the rim. Not that I wasn’t pleasantly surprised when they fell through.

    Mo is what he is..a sometimes competent role player who will give you good effort and sometimes good results..more often than not on the defensive side. As other’s have already menitioned, the only reason we’re having this conversation is because Yarou is so bad. Kennedy will easily eclipse both and probably by the end of this season.

  • Chris 81

    Before we annoint Big Mo as an offensive juggernaut, keep in mind most of his 12 point explosion was from tip ins and a dunk or two. I would hazzard a guess that the tips were somewhat lucky and could just as easily have bounced out, given our propensity for luck around the rim. Not that I wasn’t pleasantly surprised when they fell through.

    Mo is what he is..a sometimes competent role player who will give you good effort and sometimes good results..more often than not on the defensive side. As other’s have already menitioned, the only reason we’re having this conversation is because Yarou is so bad. Kennedy will easily eclipse both and probably by the end of this season.

  • Chris 81

    Before we annoint Big Mo as an offensive juggernaut, keep in mind most of his 12 point explosion was from tip ins and a dunk or two. I would hazzard a guess that the tips were somewhat lucky and could just as easily have bounced out, given our propensity for luck around the rim. Not that I wasn’t pleasantly surprised when they fell through.

    Mo is what he is..a sometimes competent role player who will give you good effort and sometimes good results..more often than not on the defensive side. As other’s have already menitioned, the only reason we’re having this conversation is because Yarou is so bad. Kennedy will easily eclipse both and probably by the end of this season.

  • The Oreo

    thats stilll 10 more points than Mouph….did you notice how many of mouph’s tips and layups don’t go in? And you say it’s silly to overstate his contribution because he had “a dunk or two”???? has Mouph had “a dunk or two” all season?? Think before you write, boy.

  • The Oreo

    thats stilll 10 more points than Mouph….did you notice how many of mouph’s tips and layups don’t go in? And you say it’s silly to overstate his contribution because he had “a dunk or two”???? has Mouph had “a dunk or two” all season?? Think before you write, boy.

  • The Oreo

    thats stilll 10 more points than Mouph….did you notice how many of mouph’s tips and layups don’t go in? And you say it’s silly to overstate his contribution because he had “a dunk or two”???? has Mouph had “a dunk or two” all season?? Think before you write, boy.

  • Gunner

    Mo Sutton isn’t any more flawed than our other players. Period. On a team so in search of passion, why not play him more? We’re ten and friggin 12.

    Also, just saw this and it might explain the T-Fest Saturday. In other words, No Shit Maalik!

    http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/46631/officials-chief-john-adams-explains-memo

  • Gunner

    Mo Sutton isn’t any more flawed than our other players. Period. On a team so in search of passion, why not play him more? We’re ten and friggin 12.

    Also, just saw this and it might explain the T-Fest Saturday. In other words, No Shit Maalik!

    http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/46631/officials-chief-john-adams-explains-memo

  • Rick19

    Maybe somebody better check Cheeks’ thumb.

  • Jim89

    I feel pretty confident in saying that his double-double is the exception and not the norm.

    I’ve been off the Mouph bandwagon for over a year, and I’ve been off the Sutton bandwagon even longer.  Neither is quick enough, or skilled enough, on the offensive and defensive ends to perform CONSISTENTLY at the Big East level.

    Again, I hate “bashing” on them because they both seem like great guys. But assessing what we see on the court, and the attendant results, the only conclusion is that both are in over their heads in the Big East.

    (PS. Why would you want to point out that a 6’11″ kid is the only person capable of defending a three point shot?  What’s he doing out there?  And if he has rotated out there, it IS a bit harder to shoot over him than Maalik.)

  • Spot ck

    Cheek and Bell and their erratic play is why we are where we are.
    Admittedly the recent play of Mouph and Kennedy has to be addressed.
    A gut feeling and only a gut feeling tells me the Center problems can be
    addressed with positive results.
    The talent level of Cheek and Bell separate us from the BE log jam and put
    us in a position to challenge the top teams in the conference.
    VU having the worst record in the BE, except for ST. John’s Freshman team is
    more than absurd,”It’s Putrid in PA”.(ESPN-Over the top. Putrid and the Keystone
    Flops should be reserved for the Pros not college kids).
    The shame is it’s true. Hope JW cut that out and posted it in ALL key locations.

    The 18Pt explosive lead Time-OUT against Marquette was a seminal moment for
    Jay and the team. It was a bonding of players to players and players to coach.
    It was a fantastic moment and GD it we blew it!!
    I have lived through all the pains, yes including Old Dominion and more.
    Marquette was excruciatingly painful and meaningful in so many ways.
    The announcers were in a state of shock at Jay’s reaction.
    Yes they’re well coached and relentless,so what??
    We are better than Marquette and Louisville and etc…!!
    I know, talk is cheap, where are the W”s to prove it.
    We had a fantastic moment and we let it slip away.
    Painful and more than just another loss.
    Venting,Thank You!! 

  • Jim89

    I’m still here and would like a better option to give the scholarship to. But I would love to be proven wrong even more.

    Would really prefer to give the b-ball scholarship to a better option, and award Mo an academic scholarship to keep his enthusiam on the bench and in the locker room.

  • Blue & White

    I am hoping that Coach Wright’s ego can allow for the possibility that his judgement may be flawed at times. He has exhibited some hesitation to make changes in offense style and in certain ballplayers even when stats show that neither is working well.  Does he have an objective eye when evaluating Sutton? I would like to know how Sutton shows in practice. 

    Certain ball players just take longer to develop and if and when they do, hopefully it can be recognized. Is Sutton one of those players? He certainly offers some unique abilities. Given the mediocre play of the other “bigs,” it’s worth finding out if he can become an effective role player rather than a bench warmer. This is definitely a  year of experimentation. I would like to  find out what we have with Sutton by increasing his playing time.  

  • Dom

    Good post The Oreo. 

  • Sandy

    No Nova should have lost a game with an 18 point lead when they have 4 players who you can work the ball inside to particularly when 3 of the 4 are very good foul shooters.
    Instead of screening for Wayns 40 feet from the basket, how about trying some screens down low to free up the inside players.

  • NovaFlyer

    These kids are playing as well as they can.  The hype comes from the media, often the media gets it not quite right.  The kids don’t assign the stars, the media does.  Coaches need to look beyond the stars and look for talented students who like to play basketball.  It is not easy to be on top every year, and this is our turn.  Never trash the students who are playing.

  • NovaFlyer

    Good post.  JW is constantly complaining about calls as are any number of big time coaches.  If we T’d them, then they would get the message.  The refs often are not very good, so let the NCAA deal with that.  If basketball turns into rugby or football, then the NCAA is allowing it.  Pound the guys and lose the skills,  takes the talent out of the game and leaves it to the thugs, like X and a few other teams.  Reminds me of hockey, thugs, blood, and no talent except who could you hurt.  Could go on, but….

  • Barney Rubble

    The Harrison Twins are RIDICULOUS….so says this video. 
    http://www.ihigh.com/vypewest/video_904101.html 

    http://www.ihigh.com/vypewest/video_904099.html 

    They would become the faces of Villanova just by committing to the school….ok, maybe after JC fellow.  

  • Dom

    Good post Stall so hard. Cutting Sutton would be a bad move.  Sends a lot of signals that are questionable as to reason.  If a player can do well in one game, he can do well in other games. Maybe just needs the opportunity to succeed, like we all do.  Coming off the bench where he has been a fixture, then going in as cold as a clam and having the game he had is  a sign that the kid has talent.   Of course, once you get inside Wright’s dog house, it seems good games have little to do with your getting out.  Blue & White asks the 64k question, Does coach have an objective eye when evaluating Sutton? Maybe, maybe not, however we will see next game if ego trumps winning. 

  • Dom

    Brian, you hit a nerve.  Lots of good posts about Sutton.  Most folks want the underdog to succeed, and in this case we got it, including you.  Blue & White, LM 92, barry class of 57, I can go on and on with other posts.  But the key is, does Jay Wright get it?  Sutton has proven he can do it once, I believe he can do it again and again, he deserves the shot. Again Brian, a very article for a kid who came in cold and went out hot.  Good Job Mo.

  • Barney Rubble

    I don’t know how factual it is but one of the posters here has intimated on several occasions over the last two years that Sutton was less than dedicated during practices and that is why Jay had him in a doghouse.  

    I don’t have a problem with having that extra big man if he is getting limited minutes.  Sutton is better than Chris Charles and certainly more useful than Frank Tchuisi.  All the teeth nashing over what he can’t do is ignores what he can offer in 8-10 minutes per game especially on the defensive side.  I think he is invaluable to have next year competing in practices against Ochefu. 

    6’10 Chinoso Obokoh up in Rochester might be a solid replacement for Sutton’s defense in the 2013 class.   Obokoh is a nigerian kid who is coming on strong and has a long list of interested schools including West Virginia, PITT, Syracuse & Georgetown.  Jay Wright had made multiple trips to see him in preseason workouts.
    http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2011-0710/class-of-2013-intro-chinoso-obokoh/ 

  • Dom

    Correction Brian, a very good article.

  • Stall so hard

    Does that mean Sutton couldn’t play? Could we do a sketchy UConn type thing?

  • Stall so hard

    I understand the point but I don’t think it’s worth it to cut a contributor, which Sutton definitely is, before his redshirt senior year, in favor of a freshman. He’s not a star, but he contributes and by accounts I’ve heard, works hard. If he was absolute garbage it would be a different story, but I don’t feel that’s the case. I think it would send a bad message to the team. And you can’t expect high school seniors to be loyal to a coach who wasn’t loyal to a fifth year senior that he personally recruited.

    Jay Wright is a remarkable recruiter, but let’s be honest, we aren’t Kentucky or UNC. We don’t get four top-30 players every year. Maybe one or two if we’re lucky, but who makes up the rest of the team? Generally 2 and 3 star guys whose primary route to playing time will be through hard work. What does it say to a guy like Hilliard, for example (a young player with skill and potential, but nothing like the top prospects Jay targets every year), if a coach cuts the player who has been with the program the longest, in favor of a freshman who has never stepped on campus? I think that’s how you end up losing a team in ways that no recruiting class can fix.

  • Spot ck

    No,the players can play substantially better and the hype “Putrid in PA” is too harsh
    for college kids. Coaches need to teach and develop players to play at the very
    highest level their talent permits.
    A BB coach’s job is to recruit the very best BB players who have the capability of
    maintaining their academic eligibility.The players have dreams and their 1st love is
    playing Basketball and when they choose VU to fulfill their dreams,we have an
    obligation to see that they become the very best basketball player that their talent
    allows,while maintaining their academic integrity as agreed when they signed up.
    It is not our turn to underachieve 3 years in a row,that’s not what the kids signed up for!!
    On Vuhoops the kids are BB players 1st and students 2nd,we’re not hear to discuss
    their grades. We wish them well and obviously want them to achieve academically
    for several reasons.I would like to think that any “trashing” is about the performance
    of the player,but most certainly not about the player.

  • Nervous Nelly

    I have always thought Mo was under appreciated. Even as a Mo fan I was blown away by his Marquette performance. There is no question he deserves more playing time.

  • http://twitter.com/Brian_Ewart Brian Ewart

    You have 13 roster spots and 13 scholarships available in Division I. Yes, they could keep him on as a graduate assistant or as a practice player, but if he is at all available to play basketball it won’t matter if he has a scholarship or not.

  • NovaFlyer

    Just maybe these kids are playing at the very
    highest level their talent permits.  If we want semi-pro basketball let the money flow…  Doubt you have even been around college athletes who work their butts off to preform and do the school work required to get an education.

  • Joegrane

    I don’t think Brian’s point is that Mo is a great offensive player or playmaker.  Obviously he is not going to beat anyone with crossover dribble or NBA 3.   The stats do suggest that he is not an offensive **liability** while he is at center.   Virtually everyone agrees that those long arms along with some mobility are an asset on D.

    The bigger problem for Jay is to decide if he is going to play Mouph and Mo at the same time.  Can Mouph’s mid range jumper stretch the defense enough to keep opposing defenses from packing the lane with defenders?  That would tend to neutralize the quickness of his best player.

    If Jay plays Mouph and Mo at the same time he will not likely have a spot in the lineup at the same time for the emerging JVP. 

    There does seem to be some minutes every game where Jay could play both Mouph and Mo–when Tyrone is at PG.  Tyrone’s length probably makes him better suited for feeding low post players.  Now can Mo handle passes from his guards and do something productive with it–pass or finish?

    Jay seems committed to getting minutes for his freshmen this year.  I agree with him.   The goal is a successful season next year, not this year.

    Against most teams I’d rather have one of the three centers on the court with JVP at the 4.

    This is a very rare problem for Nova.  When was the last time that Nova had three centers who could actually contribute?  (please skip the bad jokes about Mouph being too soft to be a center.)

  • Anonymous

    Mo Sutton may just emerge as the secret weapon that propels us to the National Championship.

  • Sandy

    Watching Sutton play last Saturday I could not help but think of another 6’11” player who managed to ride a lot of pine. Barry Bekkedam’s 19 pts. 9 rebounds in 24 minutes vs Georgetown, only to never to be heard from again over the next 2 1/2 years of his career.

  • N34110

    Kennedy dunks well and jumps better than Yarou.

  • Spot ck

    Oh Yea!! You get it!! Punt!!

  • Guest

    I if ever see a pick away from the ball I might jizz myself

  • Bill ’62

    “…hockey, thugs, blood, and no talent…”?  Now there’s a hasty generalization.  You gotta get out and see more games on the ice — you’ll see some of the best conditioned and talented athletes in any sport.  : )

  • Ailurophile

    I have posted before that I would like to see Mo used more…in the proper role.    I think he is well suited to coming off the bench in short stretches.   His length disrupts the opposition offense and it takes them a while to adjust.   By using him for multiple short stretches, it maximizes the disruption factor.

    On offense, he has never demonstrated himself to be a shooter.   But he can score off a rebound or on a break.   I would not like to see the guards try to feed him in the post…as with the other centers, he can not handle a pass down at his ankles…which tends to be where our guards feed the ball.

    I certainly prefer him at the end of the game over Kennedy….he has confidence at the free-throw line and has a sporting chance of making his FTs.

    The play he made in the Marquette game which I liked most, was one which didn’t count:  he trailed Maalik on a break, grabbed the missed lay-up and put it in.  Just as he was putting it up, a late whistle cancelled the play and Maalik went to the line.   Showed great hustle running the court…and he actually finished the play, which has been all too rare for our team over the last couple of  seasons.

     I think it speaks highly for the young man that whenever he has been asked to make his monthly cameo appearance, he has been ready to play, displayed enthusiastic energy, and has contributed in a positive way.   

  • Barney Rubble

    Marcus Austin was cut from his 5th year of scholarship in favor of Shane Clark.  This is the same Shane Clark that had verbally commited to Villanova and then decommited in favor of Maryland.  Due to a paperwork screw-up by Maryland staff, he lost eligibility for freshman year unless he went to another school. 
    Shane Clark went on to start on a Final Four team.  No one shed a tear over Marcus Austin who got FULL scholarship for his undergraduate degree just as Mo Sutton has received. 

    I commented about a half a dozen times to the value of a 23yr old  6’11 back-up center in his 5th year but as long as Sutton had completed his undergraduate degree, it’s an easy decision to take a player of Amile Jefferson talents into the program along with Ochefu & Arcidiacono. 
    As the program drama turns, we lost both Armwood & Goodman since August so it’s no longer an issue but Jay Wright never stopped recruiting Jefferson.

  • Ailurophile

    Good point Barney, just as it was on the previous posts.

  • Barney Rubble

    Marquette didn’t have anyone to match his length.  I thought they got away with a ton of fouls in pushing and climbing up Sutton’s back.  
    Inconsistent officials like the ones on Saturday call a different game for Bigs then they do for the smaller players.  It annoys me to watch that crap.  A foul is a foul is a foul no matter if it’s a 6’5 guard climbing up a 7’0 center or the other way around. 
    Shaq used to complain about it and Wilt Chamberlain knew he would never get a call.   Mo Sutton is nowhere near their category but he was the only 6’11 player out there the other day and I thought Marquete was hacking him through much of the game.  
    Even that picture at the top of the page shows how physical they got with him.    

  • Barney Rubble

    B1G TEN basketball appears to be a League Rollie Massimino would have loved.

    Illinois    42
    Mich State 41 

    Wisconsin  52   (scored 35 in 2nd half to come back from 23-17 deficit)
    Penn State  46  

  • CYO Fan

    Big Ten is awful.

  • James Harvey

    You know, having a guy who’s 6’11″ with long arms who can rebound and dunk and get cheap tips isn’t all bad. I’m not complaining.

  • James Harvey

    I don’t know how much more of Sutton I’d like to see on the court, but I’ve always liked his hustle and enthusiasm. He’s definitely got a role to play.

    “Certain ball players just take longer to develop.”  I think that’s right. John Thompson used to say when coaching G’town (current coach’s father) that big men are always slow to develop. That might be true of Mouph and the rest of our bigs too.

  • Sandy

    Kennedy still needs to get in shape, until then 10 minutes is good enough, especially if the game is close down the wire. Haven’t been impressed with his rebounding either, Nice hands, decent footwork, below average athleticism. 

  • Cord

    Does not have a decent midrange jump shot, can’t post up, has low basketball IQ and is weak, playing a portion of the game on the seat of his pants

  • Cord

    I still want him gone next year

  • Cord

    Lets not get all happy after one game- he has done this before only to be horrible his next 8 appearances

  • Crdcharlie

    I have always thought Mo Sutton just needed a chance to get some real playing time. The way he played on Saturday is, in my opinion, the way he is capable of playing every time he gets real-time in a game. Where else can you find a 6’11” player with his quickness, jumping ability, enthusiasm.and 100% effort? Jay has to give him a real chance and hopefully he stays around for next year and Nova will have a dominating front line.

  • Damost

    Who knows how good Sutton is or isn’t.  Jay Kotite never plays him.

  • Damost

    If Sutton is listed at 6’10″  and he clearly taller than Yarou then how is Yarou 6’10?

  • Rick19

    Maybe Sutton is just a laid back kid that isn’t always diving in practice.  I understand that guys have to put out in practice but I hope JW isn’t one of these coaches who pigeonholes a kid because he isn’t a warrior at practice every day.  We only see what he does in games and I don’t think I have ever seen him dog it during a game.  True he isn’t always effective but game effectiveness doesn’t seem to impact JW’s thinking about some of the other guys that he keeps trotting out there.

  • Rick19

    I think you are right and for the most part these kids are playing as well as they can.  But therein lies the problem.  Many people on this site love to talk about what a great recruiter JW is.  If this group of players is doing as well as they can then that has to mean that JW did  a lousy job of scouting and recruiting them.  So either the players are underperforming and if so why or the coach isn’t as good at recruiting as some seem to think he is.  Which is it?

    In my opinion I think that some of our players aren’t as good as their hypes were coming out of high school. But, I think the even bigger problem is that they simply are not getting better.  I can understand that for a guy here and there but we seem to have more of that than we deserve. 

  • Novafan86

    The Kotite reference is not fair.  Jay has a final four and seven straight NCAAs.  Must have done something right. 

  • Joegrane

    Early in his career he really did need to bulk up.  I was afraid he would get hurt against 250lb centers.  His body and game are maturing.

  • Jarrett Jack

    dude likes to party, dont blame ‘im 
    7 ft dudes like to have fun too ya know

  • Spot ck

    “have done” is getting old, 3 seasons old, we need a has done
    and it’s not going to come from this crew!!
    Pat Chambers and Larry Brown seem to be hard to replace!!

  • Stevie V

    Mo Sutton has been with us almost 4 years and there is still a BIG debate about his role and PT…a little strange

  • Joegrane

    Yes, I wonder if he and Jay don’t get along very well.

  • Dom

    Good Post  Spot dk

  • Dom

    Good Post  Spot dk

  • Dom

    Good post Nervous Nelly.  Brief and to the point. If a Kid does well, give him another shot, why short circuit success.  The pros follow a cardinal rule:  If a play does well keep running it until it doesn’t.  Common sense. Sometimes coaches  make the game too complicated, when in fact it isn’t.  

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