The Mystery Coach

Posted by Brian Ewart on January 19, 2012 · Under Article, Coaches · 54 Comments 

Larry Brown, the former NBA Champion coach has often spotted at Villanova games over the past few years. He is close friends with Jay Wright, and perhaps something of a mentor. While he has no official title or responsibilities with the basketball program, he has been “around.”

Brown attends practices, he watches the drills and scrimmages and advises Wright and his staff based on his own expertise from decades of coaching basketball players. It is the second-opinion that Jay Wright looks for to check his own judgment.

When it comes to phone-a-friends, however, Jay Wright has a rolodex deeper than Larry Brown. According to a quote published in the Newark Star-Ledger this morning, there was another coach from outside the program staff who attended practice this week — called in to provide insights.

“That’s what we’re looking for — effort. We have a legendary coach at practice every day, a Hall-of-Famer in Coach (Larry) Brown, but being around so much, sometimes, he’s like us. We had a guy on the outside come in and watch practice the other day and after practice he said, ‘I really didn’t see anybody going after each other.’ They’re still learning a lot of things and it’s hard to play with complete intensity when you’re still learning and that’s what’s going on.”
– JAY WRIGHT 

Who was that “guy on the outside?” Was it another Big 5 coach? An ex-Villanova coach? A Philadelphia legend like Herb Magee of Philadelphia University? Or could it have been one of Larry Brown’s friends? Either way, Wright hasn’t identified this mystery coach.

With the ‘Cats bringing in outside coaches to observe practice, it would seem that there was a high level of concern inside the program about the level of play thus far this season. If things had been going well, with a win-count in the teens, would Wright have looked beyond a Hall-of-Fame coach like Larry Brown for advice?

UPDATE (3:40p): We have a clue! According to Dan Gelston of the Associated Press, when asked about the identity of the mystery coach after the post-game press conference concluded, Wright responded: “Can’t tell you. He would be embarrassed. He’s a local guy.”

We can go ahead and eliminate everyone who can’t be classified as “a local guy.”

  • Jkolb61

    Doesn’t the program Jay to do the thinking here?  Liek $2M to have “experts” physically visit?  Maybe they should get hte job.  It starts with recruiting and then may listening to the players i.e. Wayns on TV saying he would like to be the shooting guard.  Last two games guess who is hitting 3s.

  • Dribble1

    Slower: Doesn’t the program “pay” Jay to do the thinking here? Like $2M to have “experts” physically visit? Maybe they should get the job. It starts with recruiting and then maybe listening to the players i.e. Wayns on TV saying he would like to be the shooting guard. Last two games guess who is hitting 3s.     

  • Brian

    Pick a Fortune 500 company and I will show you a CEO making 7+ figures in salary who calls in outside “experts” to help him out.

  • Anonymous

    Only one person in the course of history has every really had all the answers, and people nailed him to a couple trees, so I don’t think we can hire him. Though I’m fairly certain he has been contacted a few times for mentoring help.

  • NovaNation06

    I think I know the man you are talking about. Unfortunately Tebow has him on contract indefinitely, so we’re just going to have to settle for Jay Wright.

  • NovaNation06

    I think I know the man you are talking about. Unfortunately Tebow has him on contract indefinitely, so we’re just going to have to settle for Jay Wright.

  • GaryMcLain’sSkiLodge

    At least Jay is reaching out and trying to improve the coaching.  He realizes that he has some flaws as a coach and is trying to fix things. 

    Also, people around here give Larry Brown a lot of flack, but I’m glad he’s around the team.  It doesn’t hurt at all to have a hall of famer willing to share some of his knowledge, for free of charge.  And there’s no way that Larry Brown is the reason for recent struggles. 

    Whoever the mystery man is, he seemed to have instilled a sense of urgency that this team has been without the past couple years.  I wonder if Wayn’s read that recent article about Kyle Lowry?  He really is attacking the rim more, and has improved his overall game almost instantly, especially rebounding.  He’s clearly the best player on the team.

  • BlueSuitGuy

    Do we have to keep fueling the fire? When we thought Jay was doing it alone, everyone wanted to find a new coach. Now he is getting assistance, and we want him to man up and earn his paycheck? Any man of true character can admit when he is wrong, and, by bringing in a second opinion, he is getting insight that he didn’t have. It’s not a lack of quality coaching or brilliance on Jay’s side, but after looking at something so closely for such a long time, anyone’s thoughts and ideas would be stagnant. I like that Jay has other great coaches coming in. There hasn’t been a single coach that did EVERYTHING on their own (someone will find something to refute this haha). Let’s remember who Jay Wright is, where we have come from, and where he has taken us. The very idea that this season is a let down is due to the high expectations Jay has held for his players, his assistants, and for Villanova in general. The man knows what he is doing and has helped build a nationally recognized program. All who are searching for a coach who makes no mistakes will be disappointed. 

  • Login77

    Everyone needs help and nothing wrong for jay to reach out. Also looking forward to seeing Pinkston at the Garden this Saturday. I am hoping he has a monster game.

  • Guest

    This just in, he reneged on Tebow’s contract in the Patriots game. Looks clear who that mystery coach was now.

  • Login77

    Also this was huge that cheap shot on Pinkston when grabbing the rebound he was pushed. Pink could have gotten seriously hurt on that play I don’t blame him for being upset. And wow what a job by Hilluard to pull Pinkston away. That was the key to the game. Hopefully that lit a fire we haven t seen in a few years. 

  • Stevie V

     I am guessing it was Tim Welsh the former Iona and Providence coach, who announced the game. He mentioned intensity several times during the broadcast. 

  • Jimdribble

    I agree about Hillard pulling JVP back that was an important save. I give Jay credit for bringing in an outsider to see things. It does not matter what Jay is being paid it matters that he was open to new thoughts and new ideas that shows me a lot. It is when we think we know it all that we stop growing. 

  • Brian

    My guess is that it was someone who wouldn’t want the world to know that they advised Jay Wright after observing practice. Stevie V’s suggestion might be right, a broadcaster would definitely be welcome to view a practice, but wouldn’t want it announced that they offered a team advice.

  • The Oreo

    you are annoyingly negative. im glad jay is searching for answers when the obvious one is not apparant.

  • The Oreo

    you are annoyingly negative. im glad jay is searching for answers when the obvious one is not apparant.

  • The Oreo

    thank you. Jkolb61: go home.

  • The Oreo

    thank you. Jkolb61: go home.

  • Tommyboy

    Good thought Stevie.  During the game he commented this years team is “soft” and no one is scrapping for the loose balls.  That would pretty much match up with his observations at practice.

  • FruitLoops

    I agree.  Jay is trying to fix it, and using all the resources at his disposal can only be a good thing.  I think the reason most of us have been on Jay’s case is the fact that his teams have fizzled out going into the last 2 BET’s and NCAA Tournaments.  Finish strong, and the ship will be righted.

  • FruitLoops

    It could honestly even be Bill Raftery.  Ties to the Philly area, was at a few Jay Wright fundraiser dinners, and has a pretty consistent broadcasting schedule (Big Monday, Weekend Game).

  • Rand137

    Exactly! Consultants are commonplace for the outside perspective.

  • LM 92

    The specific words that were used: “Jay, your team needs some ONIONS!”

  • BlueSuitGuy

    Jay didn’t necessarily have an established coach come in. I know there were rumors about him trying to get on Jay’s staff, but would Nardi be a possibility for who he mentioned in that quote?

  • GaryMcLain’sSkiLodge

    You need more “little kisses off the glass”

  • Dom

    Welcome anyone  who can help.  Team looked very good and played aggressively.  Made us proud.  We have the talent. Keep up the good work.  Still hoping we can make the NIT.

  • mprams

    Rumor has it the mystery coach was the HoneyBadger

  • Spot ck

    Now your talking!!!
    Rumor has it hb is bringing Barney in as his Associate Head Advisor!!

  • Sandy

    Good Choice Stevie V,  I could only think of Andy Reid

  • Brian

    Everyone who isn’t associated with the program on a regular basis at the moment is a possibility.

  • mprams

    That narrows it down

  • Joe ManningVU68

    I’m really disappointed, Brian.  I always thought you had all the answers!

  • Gunner

    Right, they’re called consultants, and it happens daily, everywhere.

  • http://twitter.com/ftep Frank Tepedino

    Prominent NJ High School coach?

  • Gunner

    I think having Larry Brown around is unbelievably great. Not only can he observe players, but he can help coach coaches. The guy’s the friggin’ burning bush of hoops knowledge, and any f’n program in the country would benefit from his attention. But NOT every f’n coach in the country would have the ego to share space with him. 

    Secondly, I was at the game last night and when JVP got crosschecked, several critical things happened in that instant. Pinkston got furious, Hilliard stepped in, and all the lessons JVP was taught last year seem like they kicked in.  And then he kicked ass on the basketball court. It may be a moment we all look back on in the next few years when JVP announced his arrival. 

    That was no ordinary win. They could’ve folded when SH got it to 47-45, and they did not.

  • Hardcore fan

    Lets see that effort again Saturday on the road.

  • Barney Rubble

    Not Basketball.  
    Football Wrestling and especially BASEBALL, I’l take the job…lol  

    Coaching philosophy must include outside advice. 

    Who did Pat Chambers mentor as a player under? 
    Answer:  It was a legendary D-II coach in the Philly area who Jay certainly trusts.

    http://articles.philly.com/1994-02-25/news/25860510_1_rams-coach-herb-magee-franklin-and-marshall-division-iii 
    In 1994, Philadelphia College was ranked late in the season as the #1 D-II team in the country with all-time assist leader Pat Chambers at point guard. 

  • Barney Rubble

    The only outside Basketball Coach I want to see in the Davis Center is Mergin Sina of Gill St Bernards…..escorting his son, Jaren,  in a visit to the Basketball offices.   LOL 
     

  • Barney Rubble

    And another Nova blogger reports that Jay Wright will be scouting Jaren Sina (2013) personally tomorrow night.  SHOOTERS…SHOOTERS…SHOOTERS.
    http://novafacts.blogspot.com/2012/01/recruiting-jay-wright-looking-at-2013.html 

    Villanova had previously attended Sina workouts back in October and recently had someone at his Holiday games.  But I am not sure if he got an offer yet so this may be Jay making him an official OFFER. 
    Bright kid, good academics.  Great basketball knowledge.  His father, Mergin, played at Seton Hall & Rhode Island and is now the Gill St Bernard’s head coach.  
    Sina crossed off local school Seton Hall after they took Achille Carr.  His father is close friends with a current St John’s Asst Coach so they are in on him also.  
    CLOSE THE DEAL, JAY !!  .  

    We shoot 3pt shots at a 30% clip now.
    If we can get Sina & Cameron to join Arcidiacono on the roster, I estimate we will be shooting 3pts shots at roughly a 70% clip.  LOL  

    http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0108/crc-classic-game-recap-game-of-the-day-mater-dei-gill-st-bernards/ 
    >>> Jaren Sina  6’2   —  2013 guardHigh major guard. Shot wasn’t falling inside the arc but matched Mitola from outside the line (5-11). Finished with 19 points, 10 assists and 3 boards. Doesn’t need hardly any room to get his J off and the results are often deadly.   Big-time deep shooter. Also played the two man game with Hoffman excellently. Found his guys the entire game. Struggled some offensively scoring but didn’t let it affect him, kept playing and made winning plays down the stretch.
    On his recruiting: “As of right now I’m looking at several Big East, SEC and ACC schools my list is truly long. Seton Hall was actually one of my top schools but they got Aquille Carr yesterday so now they’re completely off my list and I’m wide open, still looking around and I’ll probably be taking a visit up to Virginia soon.” <<<

    WANTED:  Jaren Sina  6'1 PG   Gill St Bernard   21.4 ppg
    ESPN Profile (95)Scout Profile (4 stars)Rivals Profile (4 stars)  

  • Doctorfeelgoodes

    yes a road win to back up the home victory would be the start of a trend. at this point the win is good but w/o legs…so to speak. i think the ship was starting to turn even earlier than s.h. game. they played well enough at cincy till the last 4 min’s or so & fell apart w/o floor leadership & poise. they certainly are not there yet, evident in the last minute losing poise w/ turnovers. it just seems like they got tired of being rolled. the “onions” are starting to grow. now mix poise w/ intensity & it will blossom more. remember, the best place to grow “onions” is on D.

  • http://twitter.com/Brian_Ewart Brian Ewart

    I’m investigating, Joe!

  • Barney Rubble

    Gill St Bernard’s   AT   Hillsborough HS 
    Friday January 20th    7pm 

    http://media.nj.com/boys_basketball_blog/photo/jaren-sina-actionjpg-77c1cc919ad842af.jpg 

  • Jello

    The Mystery Coach sounds like Doug Collins.  I love all his post game comments.  He has such great analysis and knows every stat.

  • thetruth

    Raftery was the head coach at SHU.  You think he helps out VU, the week prior to their matchup? I don’t.

  • steve

    Just a wild guess but could it be Chris Ford ?

  • Stevie V

    Sandy.. Not many people know this but,.Andy Reid is in charge of time outs and foul strategy and he has a lot of influence with our team…..His big contributions came last year at Rutgers and again this year against Santa Clara.
    Plus Andy has the Magnum PI stach that they players really think is cool…they kind of relate to him….LOL 

  • The Oreo

    SEND IT IN, JEROME!!! To the rim, WITH ALACRITY!

  • Rick19

    I love the comment about not seeing guys go after each other.  I have a theory.  Maybe it’s just a ruse to throw us all off and the truth is that Jay is reading the comments here and he is thinking, WTF, I might as well listen to these know nothings and give it a shot.  The lack of intensity and the soft personna of this team has been mentioned a few hundred times on this site.

    I said it in an earlier post.  If what we have seen against Cincinnati and SH is where this team is headed, then there is reason to hope and believe again.  It shows they are getting it.  If they stick to this recipe, they will beat some teams and those that they don’t beat they will scare the hell out of. And they will be better next year.

  • Spot ck

    Good Points!!

  • Spot ck

    Good Points!!

  • Spot ck

    Great coach who would definitely try and help the situation.
    I think it was a lot more informal than we think and best left on the quiet.
    (Don’t want to trump God and bring in an “expert”,Larry Brown is God
    and Thee expert).

  • Barney Rubble

    I doubt highly that Jay reads this forum.  I give him more credit than that as an adult, let alone a coach.  That doesn’t mean some student manager isn’t dipping in here every once and a while to test the tempetures of the water from Nova Nation. 

    I can state for a fact that Theo Epstein used to have a Red Sox staff member review online forums related to the team.  Specifically ”Sons of San Horn” was reviewed and that staff member would give Theo a few condensed paragraphs every week or so covering different topics, complaints, suggestions from Red Sox Nation.   GM Epstein, team owner John Henry and several other Red Sox front office members as well as beat reporters visited for live on-line chats at the SOSH site.  Computer geek Curt Schilling was a regular contributing member of that on-line forum posting under “gehrig38″ or “G38″ and discussing non-clubhouse issues or make comments about the strategy of developing pitchers.  

    Nothing of importance discussed here is going to be something that hasn’t been mentioned to Jay from far more credible sources that he knows personally.  Now there may be a general consensus that develops here that re-enforces the pressure he already feels from one of his Assistants or another personal source in regards to a change that might be needed in the program.  No major Coach is taking marching orders directly from the fanatical ”mob” but at the same time you can’t have a “tin ear” to the fan base in today’s world if you are in a high profile Coaching position. 

  • http://twitter.com/WhiteBearPrblms John Handcock

    Tim welsh just said he was at the Cats practice on Tuesday.

  • Guest

    I am convinced Jay Wright posted on this forum before.  He used a weird handle to conceal his identity and intentionally added a lot of spelling errors. 

    It was a long time ago… it may have been around the time Malcom Grant was transferring. 

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