#14 Marquette Wins, But Cats Give Them A Game

Posted by Ed '77 on January 1, 2012 · Under Marquette, Recap · 161 Comments 

(AP Photo/Jeffrey Phelps)

With low expectations for this game, ‘Nova fans had to be encouraged to see Villanova down by only 3 points at intermission. However, the Cats came out flat in the second half, as Jae Crowder lead a surge by the Golden Eagles, who scored nine straight points to take a 49-37 lead. At that point, I prematurely settled on the title for this post:   “A New Year, But It’s Déjà Vu All Over Again.” But then a funny thing happened with 15 minutes to go in the game. The Cats finally showed some fire.

It began with a three point brick launched by Dominic Cheek, one of six that he would miss on an awful shooting day. However, Kennedy stepped in to grab the rebound and passed to a cutting Darrun Hilliard for a layup. Kennedy was the bright star on the day for the Cats, enjoying his best day in a ‘Nova uniform. He saw 25 minutes of play and rewarded Coach Wright for his confidence by scoring 8 points on 4-5 shooting and grabbing a team and career-high 12 rebounds, 7 offensive, had 4 blocks and played solid defense.

Foul trouble for Cheek and Wayns, combined with spunky play by their freshman understudies, was the context for a game that saw the freshman play over 60% of the team minutes for the Cats. Hilliard scored 12 points (4-7) before fouling out. Pinkston had a career-high 13 points on 4-9 shooting, including a thunderous dunk. Yacoubou played well with 8 points, on 3-6 shooting including 2-5 from long-range.  Offsetting all the good, Pinkston and Kennedy had four turnovers each.

With Wayns and Cheek fouling out to join Johnson and Hilliard, an unusual collection of Cats battled in the closing two minutes without a point guard. Dallas Oano saw a minute of meaningful time as an additional ball handler to complement JayVaughn Pinkston and Ach Yacoubou, who collectively did a great job pressuring Marquette.

Jay Wright said afterwards.  “We didn’t play 40 minutes but we did play the last 4 minutes of each half. When you’re talking about these things, that’s not a good sign, but I do see signs of promise in this group. We don’t have any glaring weaknesses but we’ve got a lot of little weaknesses — turnovers, shot selection.”

This may well be a season where we savor moral victories, and this one was a moral victory indeed as the Cats seem to play their best against ranked teams (albeit not well enough to win so far). The improved play of the freshman overshadowed a disappointing day for Cheek and Wayns and a mysterious disappearing act by sophomore James Bell (3 minutes of PT and goose eggs in the box score).

Next up is South Florida at home on Thursday, the Cat’s best chance so far for a Big East win.

Player Grades from Statsheet.com

Nova Players Mins Pts Reb Ast Stl Blk TO
A Markus Kennedy 25 8 12 2 1 4 4
B+ Mouphtaou Yarou 24 14 6 0 0 0 0
B+ Maalik Wayns 35 12 3 4 3 0 2
B Darrun Hilliard 31 12 4 1 2 0 2
B- J. Pinkston 25 13 4 1 0 0 4
C Dominic Cheek 20 6 2 0 1 1 1
C Achraf Yacoubou 22 8 1 0 0 0 1
C Ty Johnson 13 2 1 3 1 0 2
- James Bell 3 0 0 0 0 0 0
MARQ Players Mins Pts Reb Ast Stl Blk TO
A D. Johnson-Odom 37 24 6 3 1 0 2
A Davante Gardner 23 13 10 0 3 1 2
B Jae Crowder 25 9 5 2 1 3 1
B Vander Blue 23 7 7 4 0 1 3
B Jamil Wilson 31 11 3 1 3 1 2
B Junior Cadougan 28 6 1 6 2 0 1
C+ Todd Mayo 26 11 3 0 0 0 2
- Derrick Wilson 6 0 0 1 0 0 0
  • Masternc

    Surprised there are no comments yet. Guess everyone is still recovering from last night or isn’t surprised by the result so far. More of the same for sure.

  • Wildcat07

    Espn got it right. Our team still isn’t communicating

  • Jimdribble

    Jay went big with Kennedy and Yarou and we got a rebound and had a fast break. This team could be good if he goes big and they get rebounds and get the ball out to Wayns and Cheek on the break. 

  • novanation

    johnson odom is outscoring us 16 to 14 with 10 min left in first half

  • Wildcat07

    And they’re 4 of 5 from 3 pt range. We have none

  • Robberbaron9

    Stinkston!

  • Jimdribble

    I do not know why Jay is playing man to man against them. As I posted before Marquette got destroyed by Vanderbilts zone. They drive and dish for three’s and we are not good at defending that.

  • BIG DADDY

    YAROU CANT STOP ANYBODY……HIS DEFENSE SUCKS……CHEEK BACK TO ANOTHER ONE OF HIS BIG TIME 0 POINTS PERFORMANCES TOO I SEE…..YOU PLAY D ON CHEEK AND HE’S USELESS JUST LIKE STOKES WAS. GREAT BALL PRESSURE FROM MARQUETTE….JAY COULD LEARN A THING OR TWO FROM BUZZ

  • Hardcore fan

    Poof.  Yarou should no longer be talked about as an NBA player.  He is so weak on defense. He can’t stop anyone.

  • Wildcat07

    We’re they talking about us when they said one of the teams seemed to let up on defense when it was struggling offensively?

  • Robberbaron9

    Rebounding and perimeter defense are ptiful.

  • BIG DADDY

    FUNNY HOW JAY WANTS TO GO BIGGER YET WE GET OUTREBOUNDED BY GUARD TEAMS…….GIVE ME A GUY LIKE FOYE N LOWRY OVER SOMEBODY LIKE MOUPH…..JUST PLAIN SAD…..

  • Jimdribble

    We were getting outrebounded when Kennedy was not in there. He got four boards in three minutes. You cannot play with just one big man

  • http://twitter.com/ftep Frank Tepedino

    Cheek on a nice 3 point play…Wright pulls him out????  WTF?

  • Wildcat07

    Lucky Crowder is out

  • Bearded Clam

    Look at the score you negative assholes

  • Jimdribble

    As I have been saying Kennedy needs to play more. He had 7 points in 11 minutes of play. Loved the play that Johnson made to Pinkston- great pass

  • Jess

    NICE PASS BY TJ…Why doesn’t Hilliard take the ball out ? Smh

  • Bearded Clam

    he had a pretty nice block at the rim 

  • BIG DADDY

    KENNEDY IS ALREADY BETTER THAN MOUPH….HES TOUGHER FOR SURE BUT HES ALSO FROM PHILLY

  • BIG DADDY

    YEA AND THE FINAL SCORE WILL BE VILLANOVA LOSING SO THIS LITTLE SPURT DOESN’T MEAN SH*T.

    YOU ENJOY YOUR MORAL VICTORIES I ACTUALLY WANT TO WIN GAMES.

  • Hardcore fan

    This may be the turning point of the season when Jay opens his eyes and realizes that Kennedy needs to be on the floor. If you can’t hit threes pound the ball down low, what a foreign concept.  Happy New Year!  Hallellulah!!!!

  • Spot ck

    50% vs 14% has a tendency to make it difficult to get a W.

  • BIG DADDY

    HEY JAY GLAD YOU GOT WITH THE TIMES AND RECRUITED A BIGGER TEAM….IT SURE IS WORKING OUT WELL, SEEING AS ITS OUR WORST TEAM SINCE YOU’VE ARRIVED. KEEP IT UP……IM SURE OCHEFU IS THE NEXT IN LINE FOR GREAT VILLANOVA BIG MEN.

  • Spot ck

    Marquette seems to be able to get a shot off from any where on the court when ever they
    want too.

  • Jello

    South Florida won so we need this win or we’ll be LAST in the Big East!

  • G_Dizzle

    I’m liking what we are seeing from JVP!

  • Jess

    please put TJ in the game. No ballhandlers.

  • Hardcore fan

    Yarou get your damn hands up.  Play some defense

  • BIG DADDY

    DONT REMEMBER IT, PROBABLY BECAUSE IT WASNT VERY GOOD. HAS SOME OF THE WORSE MAN D I’VE EVER SEEN

  • Jimdribble

    Just watch how much Marquette passes the ball compared to us. As the announcer said “Villanova needs ball rotation” to get the ball down low. We rarely do that.

  • BIG DADDY

    SURPRISE SURPRISE YAROU CANT GET A REBOUND……TOO BAD WE’RE NOT PLAYING THE MONMOUTH N BOSTON U ATHLETES OF THE WORLD TO BOOST HIS STATS ANYMORE.

  • Jello

    Kyle Lowry dished out 18 assists last night. 

  • BIG DADDY

    WE’LL BE LAST…..

  • BIG DADDY

    GUESS DARIUS JOHNSON-ODOM IS GETTIN HIS CAREER HIGH TONIGHT…..GLAD WE COULD BE OF SERVICE DJO

  • Spot ck

    WOW!! That didn’t take long!! Good 1/2 time adjustments,UGH!! 1-1/2 Minutes, we normally
    hang-on for at least 8-9 minutes in the 2nd 1/2. Oh well just made it a little bit harder for our
    come back!!

  • Spot ck

    Establishing a new low for “sloppiness”!!

  • Spot ck

    Any time any place whenever they want too!! The defense is non-existent!!

  • Spot ck

    We are getting worse while the rest of the BE is getting better!! We are now in last place!!
    Surprise?? Why,it’s our calling card!!
    Thanks Jay!! BTW you look fantastic!!!

  • Spot ck

    Jay,
    ESPN(Dana O”Neil She loves VU)
    “Tons of talent,little to show for it”!!
    UPDATE:
    “Too much talent to be struggling like they are”!!
    What do you think? Anything?

  • VU Fan

    Don’t understand why the players are pulled on and off the court. They can’t get their groove! This is crazy!

  • http://twitter.com/stevefxs3 Steve Slade

    What’s the story on Bell?

  • CYO Fan

    They are so bad at shooting. 

  • Jess

    WOW ! Normally Hilliard is UP CHEERING his team on, now he’s the ONLY one sitting.
    Snfff…Snfff ! He obviously can’t go back in so no need to allow Coach Jay Wrong to step on his feet.

  • novanation

    Ouano’s is LOL

  • VU Fan

    Not a bad score against the number 3 Team.

  • Spot ck

    Can Cheek & Bell play that bad, NO!!
    Then how come?
    Don’t know!!
    Problems we don’t know about, in the locker room??
    Don’t know!!

  • Jimdribble

    I was encouraged by a few things.
    1. Kennedy. He can rebound the ball and plays hard. He also can pass the ball(although he had a few turnovers on passes)
    2. Hillard. He can move without the ball and had two nice cuts today for buckets
    3. All the Freshman played hard and with heart. Johnson showed some energy and had three really nice assists.

    We have to go bigger and play Kennedy and Mouph together at times. I was surprised we did not press earlier as we really got fired up when we did. With our depth I think we should full court sometimes. 

  • Dave

    Fire up 3s all day long, game after friggin game.  Then down six needing at least 2 threes with 10 seconds to go, we push the ball to the post.  Huh?

  • Jeff

    an L doesn’t require a score. Would you be satisfied if we lost the
    remaining BE games by close score ? Now post your comment again…..lol

  • Jeff

    an L doesn’t require a score. Would you be satisfied if we lost the
    remaining BE games by close score ? Now post your comment again…..lol

  • novanation

    no one got a career high although Jamail jones tied his with 11 points

  • Jeff

    You always post on here, what did Hilliard, Johnson or Kennedy do that they haven’t been doing ? Hilliard must move without the ball since HE CAN’T DRIBBLE, CREATE FOR HIMSELF OR OTHERS ! Johnson doesn’t SHOOT WELL, he must attack the basket, and Kennedy shouldn’t be in position to MAKE PLAYS, he should be FINISHING PLAYS !! 

  • JMan

    I really have a hard time watching  4 & 5 star juniors who are still “developing” play so badly.  Play the freshmen!!!! Let’s see what they can do. 

  • Hardcore fan

    I feel much better after this loss then after all the others.  JW made the adjustments he should have made.  The freshmen seem to be calming down and playing some ball.

    If we didn’t allow so many balls to slip through our fingers we could have given them a serious scare.   How did we accumulate so many players with bad hands and not a single outside shooting threat?

    Keep slashing to the basket things should look up.

  • TK87

    When will Cheek learn that he is not a good three point shooter but could be decent by slashing to the rim?  Why doesn’t JW pull him as soon as he misses two 3 pointers in a row?  Nice to see leadership from Wayns and Cheek.  They are both gigantic disappointments.  Is it too early to call it a massive rebuilding year and play the freshmen and sophomores exclusively so they gain experience for next year?

  • Dave

    3 for 17 from three.  We need to learn to not shoot threes and go to the basket.  It is the difference between winning and losing.  Can’t feel good about this at all.  No discipline to put away the three ball.

  • Barney Rubble

    7-7  …ugh.
    Anyone want to look up the last time we were not above .500 at 14 games? 
    That dubious honor is more a product of our weak OOC performance but our next game is the midway point of the regular season.  Can we at least go 8-8 through the rest of the schedule? 

    3pt%
    them 40%
    us  17.6%

    At least they made a run at the end but a loss is a loss when you are struggling as a team.   This team needs to learn how to Win close games and I don’t mean squeaking by South Florida.
    Marquette missed 6 free throws in last 2:24 of the game which gave us some hope. 

    The Freshman are getting minutes so they better rush the maturation process.
    JVP led the team with 13 pts but still missing foul shots (5-9) and we lost by 4 pts.  Dante struggled badly from the line as a freshman also so maybe there is hope in that category.

    Kennedy had 8pts/12reb…would have liked him to get that double double but didn’t score down the stretch.   The bad was both Kennedy and JVP had 4 turnovers a piece. That has to get better before next year. 

    Hilliard with 12 points in 31 minutes.  Decent effort from the freshman but  I am confused why he plays so many minutes when Bell was buried today with 3 minutes? (was there a backstory to that?)  Isn’t there a better balance than that to keep fresh legs?   Hilliard doesn’t exactly fill up the boxscores when you realize how many minutes he gets in some of these games.  I get it that Jay is comfortable with him out there but he has stopped hitting 3pt shots like he did early in the year and he doesn’t appear to be part of the solution for our weak defense.  Maybe his wingspan would be more beneficial in a zone scheme.   He is a bright player but not sure he knows his role yet in Jay’s system so he shows up in spurts.

    Yacoubou with 8 pts including 2-5 from the arc and he hit them both in 2nd half including the last one under 2 minute mark.  

    TJ shows improvement and had some nice assists but he hasn’t really shown much scoring ability which is a bit odd because when has Jay ever held a PG back from taking shots.  The confidence he exhibited at Montrose in big games isn’t there yet.    

    As for Cheek  2-10 (1-7 from arc) in 20 minutes.  The rollar coaster season continues and there is not much more that can be said .  

  • Barney Rubble

    FWIW, it was a better effort than other losses but that is a hard qualifier to hang your hat on but worth mentioning.  The freshman all played double digit minutes today.

    Marquette missed 14 FT’s including 6 down the stretch (last 2:24) so that assisted us in keeping it close after being behind by ao or more for much of the 2nd half.  

  • Jimdribble

    What I do not understand is this. Jay is stuck between two things right now. He puts just one true big man on the floor(Mouph) with four smaller players who are not good shooters. Teams that usually play that way spread the floor and can shoot the three.I say go big with Mouph, Kennedy, Pinkston and concentrate on better shots. I mean we are shooting 30 percent from the 3 point line- Wayns is down to 23 percent. Or if he does go small he needs to press and utilize the bench.

    The other thing I do not understand is what Brian brought up a few weeks ago. Why was Cheek not on the Media guide and posters and today in the pre-game announcement it was Wayns, Mouph and Quano. To not make him the captain was strange when the other two Juniors were.

  • Barney Rubble

    correction..Mouph’s last second basket made him the Team leaders in scoring today at 14 pts with JVP(13),, Wayns (12), Hilliard (12) right behind him. 

    I blame the loss on Dallas Oaunu.  I predict he doesn’t play a minute next year for this team.

  • Barney Rubble

    Oh, we got trouble  Right here in NOVA Nation,     
    With a capital ‘T’ and that rhymes with ‘C’,  And that stands for ‘Cheek’ …Dominic Cheek. 

  • Cord

    Not quite sure there is tons of talent. We don’t have one 3 pt shooter and we only have 1 player who can take someone off the dribble. And our best player can’t shoot or defend. Today I have come to the realization that Moof is an average college basketball player with not much upside. He is really a faceup 4 with solid 7′ to 15′ shooting ability. He has really good footwork but this is totally offset by his lack of strength, lack of hops and poor hands. And he is completely flawed defensively- can’t guard one position on the floor. He is an average rebounder. Cheek is a complete bust. What is the talent–a bunch of typically erratic freshmen?

  • Robberbaron9

    There is hope for the future.  Hopefully, they can beat up the weak teams in the Big East and win 3 of the next 4, with a battle against Cincy after that…Not hopeful for an NIT bid

  • Bearded Clam

     Close losses with a youn inexperienced team usually translate to wins down the stretch.  we might have won that game on our home court.  Most of you have certifiably retarded expections.

  • Anonymous

    This wasn’t a game. Marquette was up 10 to 12 points for most of the day. I like Jay, but I don’t understand why the Juniors have not improved in the past 2 1/2 years. There is too much talent on this team. They shouldn’t be this bad.

  • Anonymous

    Freshen or no…villanova is too talented to struggle this badly to find Ws…I say fire coach Andy Talley right now!!!

  • novanation

    Does anyone know what happened with Bell?

  • Jacd83

    So I guess we will have to listen to Barney Rubble and Spot ck all season with pure negativism. Guys this is a young team and inexperienced. Things will change very slowly. Getting real tired of your ” sky is falling attitude”. I didn’t know they let St joes alums on this website. 

  • Anonymous

    Kennedy’s a great example of the year we are going to go through and the patience we should have looking to better things in the future…he looked dominant at times and clearly had his best game in a nova uniform…he was also singlehandedly responsible for the Marquette spurt after the half with horrible turnovers and the lack of help D. Jay’s got no choice but to let them play through this and let them learn. These will be dominant big east players before their time on the mainline is done.

  • VU Fan

    Thank you Bearded Clam – that’s the point I’m trying to make.  

  • VU Fan

    You post your comment again.  I meant this game wasn’t a blowout against this team.  Things can get better for us.  Remain positive.  Let’s be clear – I don’t want to lose any games!!!

  • VU Fan

    I’ve yet to see your skills.  If they weren’t good, they would be here.  Sit down somewhere!!!!

  • VU Fan

    Thank you!!!!

  • VU Fan

    I say rally behind the Wildcats if you are really fans.  This team is experiencing growing pains and deserve a chance – not the foolishness that I see on here game after game.  Support them win or lose.  ALL of these players are good or else they wouldn’t be representing Villanova.  I’m tired of your crappy comments!!!  

  • Guglio

    It was an ugly game, but I am encouraged to see them not wilt against a highlt ranked team on the road.  Can you find plenty to pick at?  Absolutely, but they beat the ine — meaning the public’s expectations — by a significant margin.  Please give credit where credit is due. 

  • Barney Rubble

    It’s nice to be heading back for a home game. 

    Opening of the Fieldhouse on 4/01/32 with a lavish dance..  (thanks Al Capone!)
    http://www.villanova.edu/library/assets/images/archives/cases/case_07/File0141.jpg   

    Postwar  boom dorms in the Fieldhouse.  
    http://www.villanova.edu/library/assets/images/archives/cases/case_10/File0198.jpg 

  • Spot ck

    You are in agreement with the BB world.

  • Spot ck

    Maybe he gave notice.

  • Dom

    Turnovers and missed threes as usual were the culprits.  Team played well but needs to find that winning attitude late in the game.  Still missing that needed floor general with a few minutes to go. Would like to see two bigs on the floor instead of 2 bigs on the bench, could be helpful.  Good luck team, you are improving.     

  • JMan

    No there is not too much talent on this team.  It is so obvious that these guys were HIGHLY OVERRATED.  Mouph can’t even average one block a game!!  Wayns can’t hit the broad side of a barn and neither can Cheek.  If they were talented they would be winning. 

  • Dom

    Good post, especially about the big men.

  • tom

    How does Cheek get a “C”.  Is “C” the lowest grade?  I see serious grade inflation.  “D” would be much more appropriate.

  • Dom

    Good post, brief and to the point.  

  • CYO Fan

    You are a crazy person.

  • Johnnyb1

    I would bet the ranch Nova finishes last

  • Johnnyb1

    This team should never shoot 3s while another team is on the court

  • Spot ck

    ….and YOU laddie are extremely perceptive!!

  • Cord

    Is this the first time you’ve seen that from JW?

  • Cord

    “Fouls [27] and turnovers [17] for us,” Wright said of the difference. “We don’t have any glaring weaknesses, but we’ve got a lot of little weaknesses, as far as turnovers, shot selection.”
    No glaring weaknesses??–We are shooting 30% from 3 on 300 shots. 141 of those shots have been taken by 2 guys shooting a combined 27%. We can’t defend a guard. Those aren’t glaring??
    “They had 40 at halftime. We were lucky at halftime to be down by three.”–they had 41 in the second half

  • Dave

    That is the point.  Not that we are missing the 3s, but that we should not be attepting threes.  Coach, stop the madness.  Put away the three ball.  

  • Dave

    …attempting

  • novacat1985

    Just imagine if we were shooting as a team even below average from beyond the three pt line we would be ranked or close ………

  • Jeff

    You don’t rally behind losers, you show support and encourage them. You rally behind WINNERS ! Did we not pay the coaching staff the last 3 years, or do we have players
    bolting to the NBA as underclassmen ? NO. ALL of these players aren’t GOOD, some are marginal at best and should’ve be considered as MID MAJOR recruits. Starting lineup should be Wayans, TJ, Mouph, Marcus and Cheeks. The rest of the bunch are “in between position” players.  My two cents…..

  • TK87

    I agree about too much negativity but I do not understand how a program as far along as Villanova has come with a coach who gets 3,4 and 5 star recruits can slip and have such a down year. We will be lucky to be .500 at year end. 

    I always thought that once you made it to the NCAAs regularly and attracted top level recruits, there should never be a rebuilding year.  They should all be reloading years as we replace solid seniors with high level recruits and sophomores ready to step in and continue the great tradition.  I think others on this site have the same expectations and maybe we are a bit delusional.

  • Anonymous

    Who saw this coming?  Pitt is also 0-2 in BE play (lost to Cincinnati and ND)

  • Jimdribble

    I know. But people have to remember that Pitt’s point guard is out with an injury. With the point guard out it messes up Gibbs as he has to dribble the ball more and cannot get as many open shots.  I wish Jay would recruit one pure shooter I think this our worst three point shooting team in years.

  • Sandy

    77 points should be enough to win most games. Defensively there are many mistakes both individually and as a team.  Marquette had players wide open under the basket which makes me believe that there is plenty of confusion on assignments. JW is substituting to the opposition, it should be the other way around considering the various types of line-up/situations Nova can create. Offensively Cheek has one great game against WVa and one bomb today. His shot is technically flawed, consistancy will remain as issue.

  • James Harvey

    Didn’t see games. Things don’t look great. On the other hand, winning away games in BE always a challenge, even in pretty good years. Let’s get a few more games under our belt before considering Delaware Bridge.

  • Spot ck

    The man has elevated inane comments to an art form.
    You be careful out there,too many negative facts and you’ll be included with Barney
    and myself as the “negative crappy comment trio”!!
    PS
    Agree, good comment.

  • Barney Rubble

    Or you could actually READ what is written rather than making it up.
    I haven’t picked against the TEAM ALL YEAR.
    I had them with 20-21 wins and making the tournament. 
    I’ve written more positive things about these freshman than you could ever think of. 

    Don’t let the FACTS get in the way of your BS posts.
    The team is playing lousy basketball and outside of Big Daddy, virtually no one here expected it to be this bad with 3 touted juniors plus a sophomore that started every single game for TEAM USA 19U last summer.   

    We are one game away from the midpoint of the regular season and no one knows who the team leader is, the line-up is still a revolving door,, no one knows when OR if Jay will finally put the handcuffs on the amount of 3pt shots for a team that can’t shoot straight.
    No one created these NEGATIVE statistics.   The Players went out and earned those stats every game this season including some highly embarassing losses.    

  • barry class of 57

    o hum another loss/we are headed for a losing season/will peeps wake up than and replace jw/benching cheeks after he scores tells all about his lack of coaching knowledge/we will not win any games away/

  • VU Fan

    You need to look up rally. I meant the word I used. I’m done – no need to reply.

  • Cord

    2013 Phoebus (VA) SF Troy Williams has made a top five of North Carolina, Georgetown, Virginia Tech, Villanova & Kentucky

  • Spot ck

    Extremely well said and accurate, accuracy doesn’t count for much with
    some folks around here with their blathering!!

  • Spot ck

    hb,You out there? Hope all is well. Happy New Year!!

  • Bearded Clam II

    Half the people who post on this board are idiots.  You have a plethora of negative nancys who are calling on Jay Wright to be fired — even though just about every college program would kill for a taste of the success we’ve had here at Nova under his watch.  I directed two of my buddies — one an NC State alumni and the other a Syracuse alumni — to look at some of the commentary here.  They both suggested that no one in their right mind would argue that Jay Wright’s job should be in jeopardy.  My friend from NC State pointed out that there are only a handful of teams in the country — think programs like Kansas, UCLA, and UNC – that have won more tournament games and that State.  He said he would kill to have him as their coach. 

    You should be careful what you wish for because I believe a guy like Wright would land the Gilchrists and the Evans if he had a program with a real arena, a larger fan base, real enthusiasm for basketball, and deep pocketed boosters.  Given the small size of Villanova and it’s lack of national exposure, Wright has done incredible things.      

    Analysts, who actually follow other teams in the league predicted that this team would struggle.  Simply put, this is a young team, that has limited experience playing with one another. 

    Today’s loss wasn’t a bad one; and it was a markedly improved performance from the one vs West Virgina – which also was not a bad loss.  We were in it until things got out of hand during the last few possessions.  Both could have easily been wins on our home court.  And these types of close losses are actually what forges some confidence in young teams and gives them the audacity to believe that they can actually win.   I predict that Nova will play erratically for another half dozen games or so and then the pieces will start to click.  This is probably an NIT team when all is said and done this year, but they will compete to be at the top of the conference next year. 

    When ‘Nova didn’t make the tournament back in 2003/04 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/222/year/2004/villanova-wildcats) there were similar calls for Wright’s head, similar pronunciations that his recruiting class was a bust, and similar insinuations that he couldn’t coach. 

    Wright proved everyone wrong then, and I believe that he’ll do it again.  He’s a winner.  It’s undisputed amongst anyone who knows anything about basketball. 

  • Cord

    We have absolutely been shooting less 3′s the last 2 games

  • Spot ck

    Barney,
    Did you see my question, (following the Sam Gilbert post) if not I would like your
    opinion if you saw it and UGH. OK I’ll survive!!

  • Spot ck

    CLAM,
    AN Idiot finder!! YEA, YEA!!
    BLAHHHH!!
    Print your post and remember how it turns out, it will help you
    get over yourself!!
    Grow up with your language tough guy!!
    As for your self-proclaimed BB knowledge, good grief, try stand-up
    comedy, your bad language will fit right-in.
    Happy New Year!!
    PS
    Where did you go to school??Do you remember??

  • Grop

    I went to ‘Nova. Team missed the tourney during Lappas’ last 3 years and Wright’s first.

    Language aside, my comments are dead on. I’m not the only one who thinks the negativity here is certifiably stupid.

  • Guest Who?

    This is not the lexicon of a guy who graduated in ’57

  • Barney Rubble

    Cord,
    I understand that but shooting four less 3pt shots than our season avg is not putting the handcuffs on that part of the game and Jay certainly isn’t stopping one of the worst culprits.  Cheek should have been on the plane home before he ever got to 7 long distance shot attempts today.  Teams are begging him to take those shots for a reason.   They know the stats as well as anyone.  He will be left open as much as possible by opposing teams unless he can show he can make them and halfway through his junior season, he has not.  Cheek is down to 29.5% for the season and 30.1% for his career at Villanova.   .

    Wayns alone almost covers the 4 less shots today as he is finally showing self-restraint going only 0-1 today (25.4% season) after averaging 4.77 long shots coming into the game.   It’s come to a point where he must acknowledge to himself that missing 3 out of every 4 long shots is not helping the team. 

    The team was 3-17 from the arc vs Marquette.
    The Wildcats have lost 100% of the time this season (0-5) after shooting a three point percentage of 17.6% or worse.

    21.5% shot attempts a game from the arc for the team.
    91-300 = 30.3% for the season  287th in the country. (15th  in BE)

    http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/villanova/team_stats?type=all 

  • Barney Rubble

    whoops, just read this. 
    Sorry now that I repeated it above in my response to Cord.
    I got to pretend that those negative stats don’t exist.

    Jay would give his kingdom for a Plansky about now.
    Mark Plansky on this team and they are at least 10-4
    The guy could SHOOT and opposing teams knew it.   Plansky had stone nuts and he brazenly used the 3pt shooting to break down opposing defenses.

    He was  a  6’7 forward with limited athleticism that can shoot the lights out…hmmm
    Plansky….I hear Hudson Catholic has this 6’7 kid named Reggie Cameron who can shoot it pretty good also.

    http://media.nj.com/star-ledger/photo/2012/01/10403748-standard.jpg 
    Cameron today in a tough loss to the always talented Plainfield 59-57.
     .  .

  • Barney Rubble

    I think you were bringing up Larry Brown again.
    Not sure another cook in the kitchen solves the problem even if he is a master chef.   Brown is at retirement age but has always been the top guy for many decades so he brings his ego and experiences to anything he joins.  
    I hope Jay is listening to his advice but I assume Larry only offers when asked.  Larry may never be anything but a peripheral guy around the program so I can’t see forcing him upon Jay.   Larry might like his status where he can come and go as he pleases so not sure you will see any official position for him. 
    I think the same two distinctions keep coming around again and again and that is actual TALENT vs the recruiting HYPE that many of these players received.  It’s hard to believe that we could gather so many players that are failing to reach their perceived abilities.   How much is coaching and how much is the players themselves is the animosity here lately.  

    There are so many glaring weaknesses as a Team right now (shooting and defense to start) that it’s not guaranteed you can correct them with the current players.  The shooting can get a little better but outside of Hilliard and possibly Yacoubou(?), no one on this team will reach acceptable level from the arc.   And both of those freshman may not do it either.
    One only has to look at Cheek & Wayns season AND career % to know they are what they are and they got only 1.5 seasons left.

    We lost Malcolm Grant & Taylor King for very different reasons.  We NEEDED to get Myles Davis or Nick Faust in here and we missed on them. Davis academics probably hurt his situation a lot with Villanova.
    I hope Arch heals up quickly, but it’s an open question how much he helps as a shooter.  He should be better than most of the current players but that is an awfully low bar.   

  • Barney Rubble

    His Aunt is the Georgetown Women’s Basketball Coach.
    His Uncle is Boo Williams who is an AAU icon who is close to Mourning & Iverson.
    Troy has been perceived as a Georgetown lean all along but he has said tremendous compliments about UNC…and if Calipari opens up his wallet??  

    http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-blog/dp-teel-time-analyzing-the-five-college-finalists-for-phoebus-forward-troy-williams-20111230,0,1028400.story 

         >>>Villanova: The Wildcats are a late entry, and Jay Wright’s program, a Final Four squad in 2009, is struggling this season at 7-6. But there are connections here. Former Boo Williams star Scottie Reynolds of Reston left Villanova in 2010 as the school’s No. 2 career scorer. Plus, Boo Williams played collegiately at Saint Joseph’s, so Troy knows plenty about the power of Philadelphia’s Big Five basketball competition. And Troy is very attuned to Boo’s career – that’s why he wears No. 5.  
    ….Handicapping this race? Carolina, Kentucky and Georgetown seem inseparable; Virginia Tech is a tempting darkhorse, Villanova the longshot.  <<< 

  • Jeff

    Actually, the word is not often used in my vocabulary. After looking  up rally, i see why !!! (Never been around Loser mentality type people). Whatever the definition i’m going to RALLY behind the teams making the NFL playoffs and you RALLY behind the teams that don’t. Who looks CRAY ??

  • Jeff

    OHHH…i also looked up SUCKER RALLY. That sound more like this situation.  JW gets everyone to believe that he can coach, then after everyone buys into it and a few players go to the league, then the WHEELS FALL OFF ! AND VU Fans look CRAY !!! We are all VICTIMS !!!! 

  • Southoftheborder

    3s (3/17), turnovers (16), foul shooting lost us the game.

    The freshmen, much better, with room for improvement. It is obvious, the freshmen will carry the team.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5DRWOOB436JQT2WKM46C5UBQ2U honey badger

    Hi Spot.  I’m here.  Everyone else has captured my thoughts.  Happy New Year to you as well.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5DRWOOB436JQT2WKM46C5UBQ2U honey badger

    Hi Spot.  I’m here.  Everyone else has captured my thoughts.  Happy New Year to you as well.

  • Cord

    Barnyard–Just can’t agree. You can see it in approach–we look there much less. Plus you have to take the last 2 games out of numbers and then its over 5 less per game. You have to shoot them when they are wide open, just like Moof has to shoot when he is 2′ from hoop in traffic though we know that’s not going in. The deal is to bench the players and I think he is getting there with Cheek. Don’t forget he went for 20 in the previous game. Don’t forget we have only one “get to the rim” player, we use no flex, minimal high low and we don’t look to push. How do we score?

  • Stevie V

    Mouph, Kennedy and JVP up front..Wayns and take your pick for the back court must be the the rotation. The 4 players mentioned above should play an ave of  at least 30 minutes or 120 of the 200 total. 
    The current sub pattern is almost random with players playing different positions with every sub…. the result is high turnovers, scoring droughts and a chuck and duck approach to scoring. For example…..TJ is a sub for Wayns and should never be played together with Wayns.. it seems to me that when TJ plays with Malik it really shows the lack of confidence Jay has in Bell/ Cheek/ Hilliard as a shooting guards….so lets cut the cord to Guard U and go BIG. Our shooting guards are not going to bail us out this year….I have seen enough…. lets make the move as it will much of the same next year  I mentioned this line up over the summer several times and now it seems like the only way to go.

  • Spot ck

    Thanks!
    What got me was “I’m pissed off”,” WE” can get a lot more out of Dante
    he’s a pro etc..
    I thought whoa, this relationship is much more involved than I realized.
    The fact it was in 2009 our final 4 year and Dante’s coming out year
    really caught my eye.
    I agree about LB’s age and status, plus he’s out of work now and I don’t
    see his stamp on this years team. I think he was still coaching in 2009.
    The shooting really gets me, 500 a day normally gives you at least Avg.
    shooting and kids don’t mind putting in the time on their shooting.
    Defense, ugh!! Dean Smith would slid in and out of different zones
    just to keep the other team out of their rhythm.We need a whole
    lot of switching and sliding to at least keep teams off balance.
    Recruiting, Wow!! This can’t be helping.

  • Jimdribble

    I totally agree and have said we need to go big. Look at the shooting percentages- Mouph and Kennedy over 50 and Cheek and Wayns in the high 30′s. With Ochefu coming we can go big and do well. 

  • Ed’77

    Spot, the Clam makes a lot of sense to me when he is not uttering obsenities.

  • Dom

    Good post. So it really looks like we will continue with the threes, Wow.  JW needs to watch game films more carefully.

  • Dom

    Good post. I have always mentioned threes and turnovers as major  problems.  You’ve convinced me that perhaps too many substitutions should be added to the list.

  • Jarrett Jack

    Wright should play Dallas more period. With no point guards in, I want Dallas. Honestly he could be successful. 

  • Jarrett Jack

    Wright should play Dallas more period. With no point guards in, I want Dallas. Honestly he could be successful. 

  • Jarrett Jack

    What has happened to him all year? He played on the friggin U-19 USA team and held his own…why cant Jay translate into ANYTHING?

  • Jarrett Jack

    What has happened to him all year? He played on the friggin U-19 USA team and held his own…why cant Jay translate into ANYTHING?

  • Jarrett Jack

    Kennedy is smarter, tougher, and overall better than Mouph. Let him play now bc next year, Jay will bring back his ridiculous “Senior Love” and have all those clowns playing all game every game

  • Jimdribble

    Just for information Savon Goodman had a record 46 points yesterday breaking a school record for points.

  • Jarrett Jack

    I miss Scottie

  • Jarrett Jack

    shutup

  • DEA agent

    Your recollection must be bad from too much substance abuse. Lappas never missed the tournament 3 straight years as a coach.  He went to two straight NIT’s and stepped down.  Jay then went to 3 straight NIT’s before the 20005 NCAA Tournament.

  • Jarrett Jack

    What goes through Wayns’ head during a game? I want him to control the rock (not bounce it of your darn leg out of bounds), not foul out, score intelligently, and PASS THE DAMN BALL FOR ASSISTS
    I know everyone bags on him for so many things, but where are all the cuts and ball reversals leading to open shots?
    Kennedy is the future.
    After Bell’s promising summer USA team showing, what is up? Im sad for him bc he was a lot of talent and is stronger than Cheek, Hilliard but never plays or looks to be aggressive 
    Play Ouano more.
    Hey everyone, I cant wait til next year when Jay starts and plays the Seniors all game!
    Go Nova

  • NovaFlyer

    What happened to Bell?

  • GII

    The Clam wouldn’t be so obscene if you guys didn’t allow certain favored posters – with way to much time on their hands and useless info to share — to verbally attack anyone who dares to express an opinion with which they disagree.  
    I see your efforts to curtail my posting here have been highly effective.   

  • CLMII

    DEA,   While I stand corrected, the first of Jay Wright’s NIT appearances didn’t involve a single player recruited by him.   

    Wright brought his guys in, set his system up, and was rolling by that first class’s junior season.  They might have gone a year sooner had Jason Frasier not been so plagued by injuries. 

    The program has been remarkable since that point.  To put things into perspective,  UNC, Syracuse, and Uconn — all of which have won a National Chapionship within the past ten years — have all also missed the tournament.   

  • Markus Kennedy bookstore

    Villanova Foul shooting wasn’t too bad other than Pinkston (5-9).  He has had a season long issue there and needs to get better soon because his body will always draw contact in traffic and he needs to hit those bonus shots.. If he just got to the 70% mark, he would that much more dangerous on offense.
     
    The opposition missed a much worse 14 foul shots including missing 6 in the final two & half minutes which was the reason for us only losing by 6…er  4 after a meaningless final buzzer tip-in.  When you are hacking the other team on purpose and they miss that many foul shots in the closing minutes, that isn’t anything to write home about.  Down by 4 and with the ball in the final 30 seconds, we turned it over again and we have to put them on the line again. 

    Turnovers are killing our momentum in these games,
    12.6 turnovers per game
    12.9 assists per game

  • Spot ck

    Ed’77,
    Clam or now Grop is also an “idiot finder”, meaning “half the people
    who post on this board are idiots”and that’s for starters,the first
    sentence, from there we go to” certifiably retarded” and end up
    “certifiably stupid”for not knowing “undisputed facts amongst anyone
    who knows anything about basketball”.
    Ed, you are a true gentleman and have far more patience than
    old spot here.
    I don’t agree with any of those assertions and consider them
    all to be obscenities.
    PS
    His first “fact” was just challenged and proven to be in error!!
    Good Grief!!!
    Happy New Year, ED!!
    (I’m too old Ed,I here them calling).
     

  • Spot ck

    Gll,
    It’s time to move on. No-one is trying to interfere with you posting.
    Calm down, relax and enjoy the site and let’s hope VU can turn
    this thing around.
    Happy New Year!!

  • Ailurophile

    Whitey made a great point during the broadcast when Pinkston missed his free throws.  He said that when you miss a shot because you’re fouled and then miss both free throws, it’s the same as a turnover.

  • Dom

    Nothing wrong with two giants on the floor at the same time, may improve us. Let’s get back to basics for the new year.  

  • Anonymous

    Yarou should only play 20 minutes.  He can’t keep up in transition and is not the answer for more offense.  Kennedy, Pinkston, Wayns, Hillard and Yacoubou is a great lineup.  Young and talented and in need for getting playing time and experience. Then look forward to next fall with another big freshman..

  • JMan

    I don’t think there is a GREAT lineup with the team we have.  Dom said put two Giants on the floor.  Yarou is not a giant in any sense of the word.  My idea of a giant is someone who blocks shots and is a presence underneath.  Has anyone seen him do that?   

  • Spot ck

    Don’t know however I think it’s a legitimate question to ask.
    If this was the Pros they would be all over it!
    At least the coach could let you know if he is injured.
    There is a Press Conference after every game.
    It lets you think maybe all is not well in the locker room.

  • CYO Fan

    I don’t believe you are a real person. Maybe you are a computer virus. Your posts have a certain random word generator feel.

    In all honesty are you an actual person that actually went to Villanova and are you somewhere between the age of 18 and 60? It would surprise me if you said yes to all. Post 60 may prove senility, pre 21 that you are just a confused child.

  • CYO Fan

    Not a chance on rebuilding. I think its funny how this comes up all the time when looking back to the previous 3 years, everytime we complain that the younger class isn’t getting enough PT it turns out the current class is and has always been better. I would agree now is probably not that scenario but these kids earned the right to play and lead this year.

    Cheek shoots 3′s because he is that open unfortunately. It has to be part of his game. He didn’t really force any but he has to shoot wide open jumpers. To be a complete player teams need to respect his outside shot. He is not a quick enough slasher to get to the hoop when players are giving him 5 feet on the outside. I think he really just needs to work on his shot.

  • CYO Fan

    I would agree they need to shoot less 3′s but 17 is not that many. They just need to be better at making wide open 3′s. This team has zero ability to go on the runs which define college basketball because the defense isn’t disciplined enough and because they don’t shoot well from outside.

  • CYO Fan

    Agreed on strategy move. Anything but continuing to hope these guys will light it up from outside because clearly that is not happening anytime soon. The 2 primary 3 point shooters are both shooting under 30%. 

    Cheek was leaving Nova at the end of last year but was talked into coming back. Maybe he is just earning his way back to captain after his distraction after last year. Not sure about media guide / posters.

  • CYO Fan

    Agreed with JMan. They are built like talented players which is often all the top recruits are…body type of someone who could be great. Wayns was hyped on everything he currently does + being better than a 25% career outside shooter. His teammates are not good enough to rely on dishing it out to make up with assists. Especially if you are a smaller PG like Nova typically gets. You have to be able to make outside shots or be on a team where you don’t need to shoot because everyone else can…see Kyle Lowry who happened to make 44% his sophmore year from outside. I would wager Wayns is a 33% shooter in an empty gym.

  • CYO Fan

    Not sure why he picked you out. You write intelligently and you spread the blame around to all parts of the basketball team / program which is deserved. You also provide a shit ton of useful recruit information which I appreciate. Keep your negativity. Not sure why anyone would be positive about a disappointing basketball team.   

    Spotck however is a lunatic…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5DRWOOB436JQT2WKM46C5UBQ2U honey badger

    WANTED:  PERIMETER SHOOTERS

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5DRWOOB436JQT2WKM46C5UBQ2U honey badger

    Table for 4 please.

  • Spot ck

    Welcome!!!

  • Spot ck

    Those CAPS should print-out bigger than BIG DADDY’s!!
    I think most of us bought into that theme last summer but I know I
    didn’t think it would be this toxic.
    Wayns, Cheek, and Bell are arguably our 3 best athletes and it’s not
    asking for miracles to expect your best athletes to be average
    from beyond the ARC.
    Would we still have problems,absolutely!!
    Would we be a team to contend with,absolutely!!

  • John C. ’11

    so you’re suggesting they bench wayns, cheek, and yarou? there’s multiple weaknesses on this Nova team, one of the most glaring being a general lack of team chemistry. Hopefully Jay can help these guys find that chemistry and start cutting down on the careless mistakes. James Bell needs to play more minutes (he made the U19 US Team for a reason). Markus Kennedy also needs more minutes. I don’t think the answer is simply “play the freshmen.” Someone on this team needs to emerge as the leader. We’re unfocused. That someone needs to be Malik Wayns, who should improve his shot selection (become pass first, more assists, less turnovers) and start taking better care of the basketball

  • Damost90210

    Wayns won’t give up the ball on the break.   He would rather go 1v2 than give it up for an easy layup. 

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