Hawks Embarrass Cats 58-74

Posted by Ed '77 on December 17, 2011 · Under Recap, St.Joe's · 209 Comments 

Trying not to limp when he finally walked onto the court, the team’s courageous 6-foot-9-inch, 250 pound center was greeted by a roar that shook building. He hit his first two shots, detonating other roars that shook the opposing team. That happened 41 years ago when the Knicks’ Willis Reed, suffering from a leg injury,  inspired his Knicks team to win game seven of the 1970 NBA Championship series.  The story would turn out a bit differently tonight for ‘Nova’s injured 6-foot-9-inch, 250 pound center, Mouph Yarou, and his beleaguered Wildcat team.

The bad news started early for the ‘Nova fans when we learned that Mouph Yarou sprained his ankle in practice.  The news got even worse as the Cats (6-5) were thoroughly outplayed, outhustled, out-toughed and embarrassed, 58-74, by a young St. Joe’s team (8-3) playing before a raucous 3,000-strong home crowd at Hagan Arena.

Mouph gave it his best, but was severely hobbled.  He played only 11 minutes, scoring 2 points and grabbing 3 rebounds for the game.   Maalik Wayns led the Cats (19 points, 4 assists, 0 turnovers), but shot only 39% from the field, including 1-7 from three-point range.   As bad as Maalik shot, the rest of the team shot even worse –31%.  The Cats have been an atrocious three point shooting team all season, yet stubbornly feature the long ball in their offensive scheme, taking 43% of their shots from behind the arc in this one.  They hit only 5 of 27 (18.5%).

Anatomy of A Loss

Without Mouph, ‘Nova was vulnerable inside, and outrebounded 36-28 despite a size advantage and some encouraging play by Markus Kennedy (8 points, 7 rebounds including 5 offensive).

St. Joe’s pumped up their already amped fans with numerous highlight plays, including several alley-oop and fast-break dunks.  Saint Joseph’s exploited the Mouph-less Cats with six slam dunks in the second half alone, several by the Hawk’s 6-9 forward C.J. Aiken.  “They’re playing with confidence – they’re throwing up alley-oops to their guys and we’re missing layups,” said Villanova coach Jay Wright. “But we’ll get there.”  Aiken, who is the NCAA’s leading shot blocker, also swatted four ‘Nova shots during the game.

Like so many games this season, the Cats kept it close for the first half, but faltered in the second half.  The Hawks built their 30-27 halftime lead up to 44-31 with just over 15 minutes left. They went up 13 points 60-47, after a behind-the-back assist from Jones to Aiken for a one-handed slam dunk, erupting the St. Joe’s crowd.

Recipe for Disaster -- 'Nova's Key 2011-12 Statistical Rankings

All is not lost, however.  Pitchers and catchers report to spring training in 63 days, 7 hours and six minutes.

Next up for the Cats is American at the Pavilion on Thursday. Oy vey!

Player Grades from Statsheet.com

Nova Players Mins Pts Reb Ast Stl Blk TO
A Markus Kennedy 15 8 7 0 0 0 0
A Maalik Wayns 34 19 1 4 1 0 0
B Darrun Hilliard 27 8 5 1 2 2 0
C Mouphtaou Yarou 11 2 3 0 0 0 0
C James Bell 30 5 2 1 1 2 1
C Ty Johnson 24 6 1 2 2 0 2
C J. Pinkston 29 5 4 1 1 0 3
D+ Dominic Cheek 18 2 2 1 0 0 2
- Maurice Sutton 8 0 2 0 0 0 0
- Achraf Yacoubou 4 3 1 0 0 0 0
StJoe Players Mins Pts Reb Ast Stl Blk TO
A+ L. Galloway 28 20 3 6 1 0 0
A R. Roberts Jr. 20 12 9 0 0 1 2
A Carl Jones 32 15 3 4 3 0 2
A C.J. Aiken 31 11 7 0 1 4 2
B Chris Wilson 24 3 6 6 0 0 1
B Halil Kanacevic 27 5 5 3 0 2 2
C Daryus Quarles 20 5 1 0 0 0 0
C- Papa Ndao 15 0 2 2 0 0 1

The Closest to the Pin results are now posted.

  • Nova2013

    Nova 73, St Joes 68

  • Barney Rubble

    RADIO COVERAGE:  
    http://tunein.com/radio/options/Villanova-Wildcats-at-St-Josephs-(PA)-Hawks-Dec-17-2011-p357957/    
    It doesn’t appear anyone is streaming it online except WXVU  89.1FM which is our Campus station. 

  • Cord

    I saw something that said it’s on 610 AM

  • mprams

    JVP is gonna drop 20 tonight

  • mprams

    JVP is gonna drop 20 tonight

  • Anonymous

    over under on turnovers tonight, I’m setting the number at 18

  • Anonymous

    over under on turnovers tonight, I’m setting the number at 18

  • Anonymous

    Think Crique has corrected but loved the Malik Way-Ends. Maybe the Rat helped out.

  • Anonymous

    Wonder if we practice 2 point shots?

  • Anonymous

    Wonder if we practice 2 point shots?

  • Nova Hoopman

    Maybe when Jay gets fired at halftime, Lappas can take over.

  • Nova Hoopman

    Maybe when Jay gets fired at halftime, Lappas can take over.

  • Anonymous

    doesn’t look like we practice threes either with that shooting percentage 

  • Anonymous

    doesn’t look like we practice threes either with that shooting percentage 

  • Anonymous

    LOL!!

  • Anonymous

    LOL!!

  • mprams

    We have to be the worst shooting team in the country.  By far

  • Anonymous

    getting no rolls + refs calling a tight game + shooting percentage in the toilet + shaky defense = a long long night

  • Hardcore fan

    A neutered Wayns is no Wayns.  Our coach and team have no clue.  Why do they continue to shoot wide open threes when no one can hit them. Drive the damn hoop.

  • Nova Hoopman

    Georgetown crushed American 81-55 today. 
    Didn’t St Joe’s lose to American?   

    Based on the perceived abilities of the individual players, this might be the worst collection of Villanova teammates in over 50 years.  
    Congratulations Jay Wright.  You have successfully worked yourself to the very bottom of the Coaching pole.   Maybe you can go join Speedy Morris coaching High School kids. 
     

  • Nova Hoopman

    Personal fouls
    Villanova  7
    St Joe’s   2 

    This is why they are playing this game on their campus..  

  • mprams

    Another day, another 2 for 12 from the arc

  • Anonymous

    We’re fouling. This isn’t a home job

  • Nova Hoopman

    Hilliard made a 3pt shot.  Alert the media. 
    1st one in 3 games. 

    2-12  vs  4-6 from the arc. 

  • bcnova12

    Give Brad Stevens this team and he would win a national championship.

  • Barney Rubble

    Jaren Sina  PG 
    Gil St Bernards (NJ)

    One of the smartest players on the HS circuit and can SHOOT. 
    Villanova has been to see him as has virtualy ever othe Big East team within 300 miles.  

  • Anonymous

    Excuse me? White players with iq?

  • Cord

    Had 8 turnovers Thursday

  • Cord

    Wayns was phenomenal in the first half

  • Hardcore fan

    Kennedy should play more.  He is an actual post player.  Someone will eventually listen to me. 

  • Anonymous

    Good thing Way-Ends is from Philly and appreciates Big 5. But most entertaining part of 1st half was Crique – I think he’s drunk.

  • mprams

    He should have 7 assists

  • Gunner

    Yea, it is. 

  • Barney Rubble

    Halftime down 30-27 
    JVP 5 and Kennedy 4 have combined for 1/3rd of our points.

    St Joe’s out-rebounding us 19-15 
    St Joe’s leading with 10 assists to 4 assists. 

    Villanova shooting 2-14 = 14.3% from the arc.  
    St Joe’s is 4-7 = 57.1%  

  • Guest1

    I think what he’s trying to say is: Fuck the uptown brothers. They never pass the ball, they don’t want to play defense, they take five steps on every lay-up to the hoop. And then they want to turn around and blame everything on the white man.

  • Anonymous

    Barney-u should be shooting down this jerk not responding like this. Disappointing.

  • Barney Rubble

    LaSalle took us to overtime.
    We beat Penn but couldn’t put them away.    
    Temple kicked our ass.
    We are losing at halftime to St Joe’s and Villanova cant shoot the ball worth a damn. 

    Did Dominic Cheek transfer out yet?   Can we speed up the process?   
    He has 1 rebound and 2 pts with 1 turnover & 1 foul.  
    And James Bell is equally as pitiful.   

  • Hardcore fan

    Let Wayns be Wayns or we lose

  • Cord

    Defended and didn’t turn it over

  • Cord

    Defended and didn’t turn it over

  • mprams

    This is pathetic

  • Hardcore fan

    Kennedy over JVP this is so brutally obvious.  JW you need an assistant who isn’t a yes man.

  • Hardcore fan

    Kennedy over JVP this is so brutally obvious.  JW you need an assistant who isn’t a yes man.

  • Anonymous

    Brian/Mike -this has to stop.

  • bcnova12

    Anyone else who attempts a 3 should just be sent to the locker room

  • bcnova12

    Anyone else who attempts a 3 should just be sent to the locker room

  • Barney Rubble

    Why?  Like the KKK can’t make a good hoops observation every once in a while.  Besides Sina is probably arab anyways so he won’t like him either .       

    The fact that our current group of players are clearly dumb on the court isn’t news to anyone watching this crap whether he is a Augustinian Priest or a skinhead.  These are some really dumb basketball players that never ever learn from their mistakes.  

  • novanation

    the scary thing is saint joes has no seniors also

  • treberta

    These dudes really do suck. I see a bunch of guys attempting to play basketball and failing pitifuly. What has happened to Villanova basketball? It has vanished with eaqch game over the last 2 years. I hope I’m wrong but I see Villanova missing the NIT.

  • Guest1

    Don’t be so sensitive, that’s whats wrong with this country, whiny libs like yourself. Its a quote from the 25th hour.
    Basically treberta wants a traditionally good basketball player who makes up for lack of physical skills by preparing oneself mentally (IQ). This just so happens to be, in most cases, the white player, and I’m not being racialist

  • Barney Rubble

    Maybe it’s that white man wearing those nice suits on the sideline that should be taking the most blame.  He hasn’t got thru to these players one iota in the last two years. 

  • Hardcore fan

    JW in case you have someone following these comments I didn’t mean Kennedy without Mouph.  Adjust now.

  • Barney Rubble

    But their young players are actually getting better from game to game while the Villanova dummies get worse or stay the same.   

    St Joe’s is beating the crap out of Villanova and they are the TRUE future team in Philadelphia over the next few years until Jay gets his head out of his ass. 

    We can add nimrod Martelli to the list of Coaches that humiliated Jat Wright this year.

  • Anonymous

    at what point does Jay say enough is enough with the 3 ball?

  • Anonymous

    at what point does Jay say enough is enough with the 3 ball?

  • el gato loco

    can’t shoot.
    can’t play D.
    can’t win.
    we suck hard core. playing like this, we’ll be lucky to win 10 games this year. what the hell has happened to this program???

  • el gato loco

    can’t shoot.
    can’t play D.
    can’t win.
    we suck hard core. playing like this, we’ll be lucky to win 10 games this year. what the hell has happened to this program???

  • Neccomike

    its almost amazing how bad they are on offense

  • Neccomike

    its almost amazing how bad they are on offense

  • http://twitter.com/WhiteBearPrblms John Handcock

    Yo Wayns is amazing. Give him 1 outside shooter and this dude would be a beast. I am proud of this team. They play hard and don’t give up. They are gonna be dangerous in the BE tournament and watch out next year!

  • http://twitter.com/WhiteBearPrblms John Handcock

    Yo Wayns is amazing. Give him 1 outside shooter and this dude would be a beast. I am proud of this team. They play hard and don’t give up. They are gonna be dangerous in the BE tournament and watch out next year!

  • Barney Rubble

    Who the hell is Robert Ronalds Jr? 

    6-7  12pts and  9 rebounds off the bench for St Joe’s. 

  • Hardcore fan

    WE ARE AWFUL FROM THE TOP DOWN.

  • tom 97

    i’m sorry, but having steve lappus announce this game is killing me = this guy couldn’ t get the the sweet 16  thei 3 nba players on the team

  • el gato loco

    nova nation deserves a public apology for this pathetic performance

  • Barney Rubble

    Another BIG FIVE game on the Road….another game blown off the court for Villanova. 
    And the players Quit on each other again.

    Jay Wright knows that St Joe’s is his DADDY.  
    Maybe we can get one of Martelli or Dunphy assistants to come take the Villanova Head Coaching job?

  • el gato loco

    dear santa,
    all i want for christmas is for Nova not to suck in 2012…

  • Augustjones

    graduated in 86…have seen ALOT of VU basketball…never saw us so tactically overmatched…really hard to watch….never thought i would say this but I think Jay needs to go

  • Anonymous

    this team looks like 7 decent basketball players were picked off a public court and put in nova uniforms, no coaching, no awareness 

  • tom 97

    This team just can’t play defence.  Nova used to trap and press to change tempo.  I guess they don’t do that anymore. 

  • Jello

    St. Joes: 20 assists
    Nova: 9 assists

    4:12 left in the game

  • Barney Rubble

    Is there a reason that McMahon or Ouanu don’t play?  
    It can’t be because they aren’t good enough with the way our regulars play? 

    And has YACOUBOU been….
    a)  arrested?
    b)  sick with some rare disease?
    c)  somehow injured in a practice even though this team gets pushed around like a bunch of flamingo dancers during actual games.  

  • http://twitter.com/WhiteBearPrblms John Handcock

    Must be a St Joe’s fan….can’t even spell Defense. 

  • el gato loco

    i quit…i can’t watch this mularkey anymore. it’s going to be the ugliest BE season that most of us have ever seen. i never thought we could get this bad under JW. i don’t know what the hell is going on at practice, but it definitely isn’t practice…

  • mprams

    Blown out.  Losers.

  • novanation

    what a beatdown worst overall game i’ve seen in a while

  • Anonymous

    Dana O’Neil tweet: Understated observation, St. Joe’s very good. Villa nova is not.

  • Nova P*ssycats

    This team is terrible.

    Without talent, you see how bad of a coach Jay Wright is.  He had a lead at half at Temple and was down 3 at half at St. Joe’s and Dunphy and Martelli ate his lunch at halftime.  Good recruiter, nice guy, sucks as a coach.

  • novanation

    are we even gonna get invited to the NIT don’t think so

  • Cord

     committed to St. John’s then backed out when Roberts left. Jumps out of the gym. can’t shoot a lick

  • Lacollaf

    I see a lost season. This team is embarrassing! They cannot shoot or play defense and coaching is poor. 

  • Barney Rubble

    With a few minutes left, Cheek, JVP & Bell have a combined 2 points in the 2nd half. 

    What an awful group of players.   Just horrible teamwork. 
    Somewhere Isaiah Armwood knows he made the greatest decision in his life to get the hell out of this situation.  

    There is absolutely no evidence this team will turn the corner as the season goes on.  They are horrible teammates and there is no coaching going on from this Staff of lugheads.
    Doug West, did you really need a job this bad??

  • Augustjones

    and by the way, all we hear is how great a recruiter JW is…really?…not so sure anymore

  • Anonymous

    Could be, but bet he doesn’t have face of a pig!

  • Barney Rubble

    Wasn’t it 52-47 at one point??   It’s now 71-51. 

    What a bunch of QUITTERS.

  • Hardcore fan

    i saw enough to say I saw too much.  Next year can’t come son enough.  We suck.

  • Nova P*ssycats

    Jay has a mushroom stamp on his right cheek from Fran Dunphy and now one on his left cheek from Phil Martelli.

    Jay sucks as a coach

  • Anonymous

    speechless, hopeless

  • Cord

    2nd in the BE in threes taken and 13th in 3 pt shooting % says it all.. Actually I saw good things until it got away. First Wayns was terrific and really got it. He passed inside and out and got open 3′s for guys time and time again. No turnovers and defended. TJ is getting time, getting better and going to be a player.. Kennedy looked like he belonged and I thought Pinkston was OK(has he made his first shot at the line this year?). And Jay yanked Cheek 2 minutes in to the 2nd half. He just isn’t a starter. Defense needs so much work

  • rk

    anyone else notice dante behind the nova bench?

  • Rand137

    Too bad…this team is just embarrassing, showing no growth at all, very hard to watch. …not much more I can say.

  • Guest123

    Yea there is a reason they don’t play. It’s because they are walk ons and would be horrible division 1 bball players u idiot. Yacabou has done nothing this year and tonight he was on the bench where he has deserves to be

  • Cord

    Here’s the bad news– after American we go to wvu and to marquette

  • Anonymous

    Gunner-admit it wasn’t location that beat us.

  • Gunner

    Game’s been over for ten minutes, and we just missed another three.

  • http://twitter.com/WhiteBearPrblms John Handcock

    *a face of….just trying to help.

  • novanation

    still gonna suck next year

  • Jello

    We jacked up 28 3-pointers, made 5 of them.  .179

    LOL

  • novanation

    5-27 from three. complete bullsh*t Jay how can you let your team shoot that many threes get in in the lane get in transition complete Sh*t

  • novanation

    cant wait till the great white hope (arciadano) comes and we can get rid of  some of these kids… Cheek

  • hoops fan

    Sitting Yacoubou almost  the entire night only to bring him in the final 4 minutes is a joke. The kid still managed to score a 3 and was starting to heat up the defense.

    Sad to watch overall.

  • novanation

    fairly confident we will not beat american. if we play the same game we played against st joes we will lose

  • Barney Rubble

    But it’s the SAME players next year.   Why would it be much different? 
    More Yarou, Cheek,Bell, JVP, etc..
    These.players show nothing that makes anyone see them being better,  The make the same mistakes game after game after game.

    We CAN’T SHOOT and the entire offense is built around hoisting up shots from the arc.   5-27  18.5 %  tonight
    Awful in the 1st half   2-12 
    Awful in the 2nd half  3-15 
    This is like watching some reality show with bad shot ADDICTS who won’t accept rehabilitation.    Even Dr Drew would give up on this group.

    And once again we CAN’T PLAY DEFENSE.
    St Joe’s shot  50.8%  and had 21 assists  tonight!! 
    They out-rebounded us 36 – 28. 

    Nothing changes next year except St Joesph will have a far better team.  
    We got 2 good kids coming in and one of them is having back surgery and missing his senior year while the other is a big man who will need a whole lot of patience in his freshman year to adjust. 

    Our PROBLEMS are systematic and they come from the HEAD COACH. 
    The Emperor has no clothes and Jay Wright sucks when forced to coach players up.      

  • novacat1985

    Side Note……Ive never seen a Villanova team take shots within 8 seconds of possession with a 20 pt lead ….classless inferiority complex St Joes…..This will be a wake up call for us….MARK MY WORDS …NCAA Tournament in March for us…….NIT for St Joes…..period

  • JA

    Watching mostly 3s is quite boring and doesn’t take much teamwork.

  • Jello

    In past years, we always had two really good scoring guards:  foye and ray; reynolds and fisher; fisher and wayns; this year it’s just wayns. 

  • el gato loco

    i still maintain the big 5 sucks and we should stop playing these A-10 losers. a win would not have helped us at all, and these losses just doom us…not that we aren’t doomed anyway this year.

  • Barney Rubble

    St Joe’s lost  AT  American already.
    At least we get them in the Pavillion. 
    This team is now desperate to beat a Patriot League basketball team.

    Maybe Rosemont College should buy out our Campus….ugh.

  • Cord

    Come on Barnyard–you’re smarter than that. Don’t cite the rebounding when we didn’t have Moof. And don’t you think his absence affected other areas?

  • Cord

    Come on Barnyard–you’re smarter than that. Don’t cite the rebounding when we didn’t have Moof. And don’t you think his absence affected other areas?

  • hoops fan

    Yacoubou has done more defensively in his short amount of playing time than the entire team combined. I think your remarks shows who the real idiot is.

  • Barney Rubble

    You haven’t looked at the schedule have you?  We just lost our 5th OOC game.
    There is NO NCAA anymore.
    We would have to go 12-6 or better in the Big East regular season just to be considered and that is NOT happening with this team.   We have a better chance of going 6-12 in Conference if Jay Wright and the players he recruited don’t start learning how to play basketball as a Team.    
     
    As it is, we probably need a 9-9 Conference record just to make the NIT at 16-15.

  • Barney Rubble

    You got to be kidding.  So which stats do we count when they outplay us in every facet of the game?    
    Mouph Yarou isn’t our only rebounder.  We weren’t playing some huge team.  This was a young St Joe’s team and they kicked our ass on both ends of the court whether you like it or not.  

    What stats should Temple have counted when they were missing two of their better players and beat us?     

    Jay Wright put this roster together. 
    When the team gets out shot, out rebounded and out defended, those are the results he got.      

  • OldCat

    Some observations based on tonight’s performance

    1) It’s rare to see anyone out-coached as badly as Jay was in the second half. It was embarassing. The Hawks came out pumped-up, we were flat and clueless.

    2) Cheek has been a recruiting mistake. He should be a bench player and nothing more.

    3) Our interior defense is incredibly weak.

    4) If Waayns is injured and can’t play in a game, we could be shut out.

    5) We obviously can’t handle the A-10. Can you imagine how bloody the BE schedule is going to be?

    6) Villanova used to be a good rebounding team. What’s happened? I’ve yet to see anyone box out.

    Batten down the hatches … this BE season is going to be ugly.

  • Barney Rubble

    sarcasm …GUEST123

                                                                         …lmao . 

  • el gato loco

    i fear things are only going to get worse, not better…Wayns knows this team is a sunken ship, and will only play even more selfishly as the season goes on to try to impress scouts. only a matter of time before JW deploys the old “burn” offense to try to keep the scores low because we can’t shoot and we can’t defend…i want to vomit.

  • el gato loco

    i fear things are only going to get worse, not better…Wayns knows this team is a sunken ship, and will only play even more selfishly as the season goes on to try to impress scouts. only a matter of time before JW deploys the old “burn” offense to try to keep the scores low because we can’t shoot and we can’t defend…i want to vomit.

  • Cord

    Please– you are dumbing down. Plus it was an 8 point game under 8 monutes and then it got away

  • Cord

    Please– you are dumbing down. Plus it was an 8 point game under 8 monutes and then it got away

  • jj

    I said after game we were a .500 team going to the NIT I was wrong we aren’t going anywhere

  • Barney Rubble

    17-36   2pt shots
     5-27    3pt shots 

    Ty Johnson was 0-4 from the field but 6-6 from the line.  
    Wayns was 4-4 from the line and JVP was 1-3 from the line. 
    No one else took a foul shot all night. 

  • BIG DADDY

    TOLD YA………….WHERE ARE THE HOMERS AT NOW?….I KNOW ALL…DEAL WITH IT

  • BIG DADDY

    ST. JOES RETURNS EVERYBODY……THEY WILL BEAT US AGAIN NEXT YEAR

  • BIG DADDY

    JAY WRIGHT LEARN HOW TO RECRUIT SOME GUYS WHO CAN MAKE A DAMN PERIMETER SHOT……THIS SH*T IS SAD.

  • Mander22

    As of my last conversation with Ash (12 noon outside our dorm) he gave no indication of anything being wrong with him or any discipline issues.  Odd. Jay finally let him off the bench and he knocks down a 3….of course

  • Barney Rubble

    The coaching staff needs to get the hell out on the road and find someone who can put the ball in the basket next year whether it’s putting a gun to Amile Jefferson’s head or actually finding a 2012 pure SHOOTER who can drop threes…..or they go take some JUCO or Transfer player.   
    The players they have on the roster simply can’t score enough to offset their awful defense and something has to change before next season.  
     
    Can someone just force Jay Wright to repeat back what the team’s 3pt % is this year?
    I just want to hear him say the number out loud instead of some bullsh!& about our shots aren’t falling.  Please make him actually comment on the stats. 
    We played 11 games + 1 scrimmage + 5 games in Europe and players like Cheek and Bell and JVP are still not producing offense. 

  • Barney Rubble

    The coaching staff needs to get the hell out on the road and find someone who can put the ball in the basket next year whether it’s putting a gun to Amile Jefferson’s head or actually finding a 2012 pure SHOOTER who can drop threes…..or they go take some JUCO or Transfer player.   
    The players they have on the roster simply can’t score enough to offset their awful defense and something has to change before next season.  
     
    Can someone just force Jay Wright to repeat back what the team’s 3pt % is this year?
    I just want to hear him say the number out loud instead of some bullsh!& about our shots aren’t falling.  Please make him actually comment on the stats. 
    We played 11 games + 1 scrimmage + 5 games in Europe and players like Cheek and Bell and JVP are still not producing offense. 

  • Joegrane

    I didn’t see the game.  Is Mouph okay–only 11 minutes?

    Was Kennedy as impressive as his line?  If he had played 23 minutes hiss numbers project easily to a double double–50% shooting without foul trouble too. 

    I suppose they played a small lineup for 5+ min with JVP at center.   That must have been ugly considering the Bigs that SJU has.

    It is amazing that these kids continue to jack up 3s with their poor shooting percentage and their good FT shooting %.

    Jay must have given up on this year and is just giving the kids experience in preparation for next year.

    Cheek started off the year so nicely.  What happened?!

  • Johnnyb1

    I’d like to agree with you, but at this point this team is lost. Next game might as well play Frosh the whole fk’n game.

    I am confused and very deeply sickened(Again).

  • Ed’77

    Joe, Mouph was very hobbled and was too slow to help.  Kennedy had some good moments.  Jay seems intent on exploiting our weakness by having his guys jack-up three-point bricks (2 of every shots are 3s and we hit only 15% today).  Cheek left his shot in Amsterdam.

  • ZAB

    We scored 58 points…lets focus on offense.

  • BIG DADDY

    NO THANKS ON AMILE JEFFERSON, THE KID CANT SHOOT EITHER…..IM TIRED OF THESE BIG TIME PROSPECTS WHO CANT SHOOT…..AND WHERE IS YACOUBOU? I QUIT WATCHIN THE LAST 10 MINUTES TO WATCH THE WARD/FROCH FIGHT, DID HE EVEN PLAY?

  • BIG DADDY

    IF I SEE JAYVAUGHN PINKSTON BRICK ONE MORE DAMN SHOT

  • BIG DADDY

    OOPS I LOOKED N WAT A SURPRISE ASH 1-1 FROM 3……”ASH YOU CAN ACTUALLY SHOOT, SO IMA BENCH YOU” – PRETTY BOY JAY

  • super nova

    I hope that we can turn around like we did in 1985 after we got crushed by Pitt so much that TV had to show somthing else besides the game.

  • Mddcny

    A-10 losers?

  • Mddcny

    1985 is over…stop dreaming.

  • Mddcny

    for your own mental health.

  • Mddcny

    Bye,bye

  • Doctorfeelgoodes

    sooner or later a man gets tired of getting kicked in the balls. as for me it’s once. this team needs to get mad, really mad. we need a no prisoners game now. i’m just not sure they have it in them. they just can’t learn. so many simple blown assignments over & over again. hard to watch.

  • bill

    Not quite the same as oppossing schools rooting for their teams loudly at opposite sides of the court, but the atmosphere seemed to confuse Villanova when we fell behind St. Josephs near the end of the game. I recommend that we play Big Five games that draw a crowd at the Wells Fargo Center rather than a Boston University that was as open as the grand canyon on tuesday. Better atmosphere than the Palestra too. Not a good way to get a team ready for a city series game. Jay and Phil have differnet styles and have recruited such; so why are we trying to play St. Joe’s game of outside shooting when we have a good point guard and see Pinkston and Kennedy doing well along the baseline and near the basket? Do we have a team like the Eagles who are only as good as their monentum? Can remember Eddie Jordon doing very well with Gilbert Arenas, Antoine Jamison, and Caron Butler; but, not so well with the Sixers. What’s it going to take to improve our scheme. The only possibility seems to be a JC transfer. Otherwise, we have at least another recruiting year to wait. Marquette has had some success with JC transfers and is a Catholic University too.

  • Anonymous

    Famenco

  • Anonymous

    Flamenco not flamingo

  • Anonymous

    Your aware that arch will be coming off back surgery….

  • Junior07

    DELUSIONAL.

  • EG21

    I have been a Jay Wright fan for a long time.  He led us to Final 8′s, Sweet 16′s, and a Final Four.  However, we have had two major collapses two years in a row.  The current season appears to be a collapse from the start.

    I am in agreement that he needs to go.  There no longer seems to be an adjustment in his game plan and the one he seems to use game in and game out is not working in the first place.  Before Villanova shows Jay the door, here are some things to consider:

    1) Who is his replacement?  Is Villanova going to keep hiring retreads (sp?) from the “Villanova Family?”  Or, are they going to clean house and get a fresh body with a coach who actually has a plan A, B, and C.

    2) Is Jay’s replacement going to hold up the Villanova values?  I respect Jay for that.  Can’t take it for granted.

    3) Re:  canning Jay.  My knowledge is that the only way a Villanova coach gets fired is either due to a scandal (i.e. DuPont) or the losing really starts to hit the pocketbook.  If people still go to the games and revenue continues to come in, Jay is staying.

    I appreciate what JW has done, but it is time for a new voice and a new system.  Doesn’t do the program any good to bring in 3,4, or 5 star talent if you can’t develop it.

  • mprams

    I’m not sure what is more predictable these days, Jay’s offensive scheme or his post-game quotes

    “I think (insert opponent’s name that just embarassed us) has a really good team and you aren’t going to do that against teams like that on the road. You’ve got to make some shots.”

  • Tmc21124

    OY !    I know they’re young but that was embarrassing.   Really don’t like the way they are playing – it’s NOT VILLANOVA BASKETBALL !!   Anybody remember the last time we lost 5 of 7 BEFORE Big East play began ?     

  • Nova Hoopman

    I know they’re young but it didn’t stop that young St Joe’s team from embarassing us on both ends of the court.   That young St Joseph team owned us last night and this not so young coach of ours has led Villanova down the crapper. 

    How bad a basketball program has Villanova been since last February?  
    AWFUL PLAYERS, AWFUL TEAM, AWFUL PROGRAM.  
    Fire the Coach. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5DRWOOB436JQT2WKM46C5UBQ2U honey badger

    Ed, thanks for giving it straight.  Spring training is that far away?

  • Nova hoopman

    Blown out by St Louis, Temple and St Joseph. 
    Hilliard saved us from a loss at home to LaSalle. 

    Maybe we need to replace these A-10 teams with Division III schools.

  • Popcity1

    When your best defensive player is a freshman; YOU DON’T BENCH HIM !

  • Rick19

    I agree with you that a change at the top would probably do this team some good.  But, let’s get realistic here.  We are talking about Nova and there is no way they would pull the plug on Jay.  At least not at this point.  I just don’t think the school looks at the world that way.  The other problem is where are we going to find a better coach at this point considering the mess that the Big East is in.  And, as bad as the Big East mess is, our situation is even worse with this football issue where we are stuck in the no man’s land between going big time and staying in with the Fargo State’s of the world.

    Unfortunately, I think what you see is what you get.  There is a chance that Nova has seen it’s glory years of sports because the admin has allowed us to get handcuffed the way that we are.

  • mprams

    The ONLY reconciling factor (and I’m reaching here) is that without Mouph and with Dom Cheek benched in the second half we played most of the half with a junior, a sophomore that missed half of his freshman season and played sparingly the rest, and a hodgepodge of true freshman.  Oh, and a useless 7 footer coming off injury.

    On that point, I thought Dom played good, active defense in the first half and Jay then sat him early in the second half after he got beat on a backdoor screen.  Bell got beat on the same EXACT screen the next play with the recourse.  Not sure what Jay sees in Bell. I’m starting to fear that he is Reggie Redding 2.0, and that’s not a compliment.

    Do these guys make their 3P’s in practice?  That’s the only logical reason I can think to allow Hilliard, Bell and Wayns to chuck up a combine 20 shots from the Arc (they made a whopping total of three).

    These are some dark days on the Main Line.  I’m wishing for a Christmas miracle that this team figures it out before league play so that I can at least watch without wanting to vomit.

  • Sandy

    Tough to have much of a transition game when you players like Mouph, Kennedy, Pinkston, and Cheek on the floor.
    Does anyone know exactly what Nova does on the floor, what is the rotation, what is the offensive or the defense?  It appears to be an expensive AAU team at times

  • mprams

    *without the recourse (in reference to Bell’s blunder)

  • mprams

    The only half-assed rebuttle I can offer is that Joe’s went through similar (if not worse) growing pains the last two seasons and that, while they too are young (no seniors) they are a more seasoned bunch.

  • Ed’77

    … Mouphless

  • Ed’77

    Sorry, meant to say “2 of every 5 shots were threes and we hit only 15% … “  I guess our approach is to make up for our low % with volume!

  • Ed’77

    HB … It think we’re down to 62 days since I made that post!

  • novanation

    yes but he will still be better then cheek. This kid can flat out ball

  • Popcity1

    Humm… I wonder what Yacoubou was thinking as he sat for 36 minutes as TJ,Maalik,Bell,Hilliard and Pinkston played matador defense without benifit of a red cape. When they get beat defensively it’s the norm; If Yacoubou gets beat it’s an aberation. We get blown out by St. Joe’s and he plays 4 minutes ?  WHY ????

  • Dom

    Good post.  What do they do on the floor?  How about street ball.

  • Ed’77

    As I wrote to privately to a friend yesterday, Nova plays as if it were a pickup game and each player is trying to impress his girlfriend.  If their girlfriends know anything about basketball, they’re not impressed.

  • Nova hoopman

    And Fisher is not around to knock up their gf’s. 

    These players clearly have no respect for each other on and off the court. 
    This is a disgrace to watch.   Worse than Lappas.   

    This is why Ga Tech fired Paul Hewitt.   The same moron who was dumb enough to start James Bell for Team USA 19U  last summer.

  • http://twitter.com/Brian_Ewart Brian Ewart

    Brad Stevens would have recruited better shooters.

  • Michaelangelo

    Enough whining-hail the wavecam
    MOVE THE MOUSE AROUND AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
    Here is an amazing bit of technology that you would never see in person, as you would NEVER be alone in the room. It is ALWAYS VERY CROWDED and of course you can’t see Michelangelo’s artwork close up as you can here. This is especially spectacular if you have a large high-definition screen! Too many details to view on an iPhone.

     
    TO VIEW EVERY PART OF THE MICHELANGELO’S MASTERPIECE, JUST CLICK AND DRAG YOUR ARROW IN THE DIRECTION YOU WISH TO SEE.
    In the lower left, click on the plus (+) to move closer, on the minus (-) to move away. Oh and the choir music is thrown in free. So Turn On Your Speakers!

     
    This virtual tour of the Sistine Chapel is incredible. Apparently done by Villanova at the request of the Vatican .

    Click here: Sistine Chapel

  • http://vuhoops.com MIKE

    Sorry for the delays in getting rid of the racist trash.

  • Michaelangelo
  • Jwr159

    Time to admit that Jay Wright is a terrible coach. He has to go. Nova will be mediocre at bet with him running the show. Hard to believe that the shortcomings of this team is no talent. This team has plenty of talent, at least as the players are recruited out of high school. Once they get to Nova, there is absolutely no player development. No one gets better as a player during there tenure at Nova. Sorry, if you are objective, that is the sad truth. And don’t cite Dante as an example of player development. That’s ancient history now …  

  • Jwr159

    Time to admit that Jay Wright is a terrible coach. He has to go. Nova will be mediocre at bet with him running the show. Hard to believe that the shortcomings of this team is no talent. This team has plenty of talent, at least as the players are recruited out of high school. Once they get to Nova, there is absolutely no player development. No one gets better as a player during there tenure at Nova. Sorry, if you are objective, that is the sad truth. And don’t cite Dante as an example of player development. That’s ancient history now …  

  • Ed’77

    26 assists for the Hawks vs. 10 for the Cats.  There is no “I” in TEAM.

  • Ailurophile

    What is going on in practice?   Recently, Markus, Mo, and Mouph have each been injured in practice (and I seem to recall that another player was injured in practice earlier in the year).   What ever they are doing…STOP!    Instead, practice shooting and learn a zone defense!   In addition to being safer, it might be more productive for game performance.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Mike. Thanks very much. You and Brian do a great job. It’s unfortunate that a few ruin for the majority. I’m finished here. Best of luck!

  • Nova hoopman

    Yacoubou was thinking how fast he should transfer off this sinking island.  
    He verbally commited to a team coming off a Final Four and look what he got stuck with when he got to Villanova.   
    Villanova has become the patsy on everyone else’s schedule this year.   Just pas the ball around for open shots and then watch Nova self-destruct from the arc.  St Anthony’s (NJ) could beat Villanova this year but then they have a far superior coach.      

  • Ed’77

    Two areas where we excel — free throw shooting and rebounding — suggest a strategy of working the ball in low / driving to the hoop and getting to the line.  Chucking threes negates both of our advantages and plays to our weakness.

  • Cord

    Who can take someone offthe dribble besides Wayns?

  • Barney Rubble

    Dominic Cheek goes down as the biggest recruiting BUST in at least 30 years at Villanova.  With 5/8th of his career over, he is a failure as a starter at Villanova and he has no serious injuries or ailments on which to blame his weak performances.  
    You can hope all you want but he isn’t turning this thing around.  Dominic Cheek is exactly what he has shown this year and there is no sign he is getting better.  

    We’ve heard it before but he was obviously a product of the Coach Bob Hurley system at St Anthony’s where he played as a Reserve on a talent laden undefeated National Champion team as a Junior.  That team had an eventual 6 D-I guards on the roster including the following 5 guards in the class ahead of Cheek.   

    Mike Rosario (Rutgers-Florida)  
    Travon Woodall (Pittsburgh)
    Tyshawn Taylor (Kansas) 
    Jiovanny Fontan (Fordham)
    Alberto Estwick (Fordham)  

    http://peter-spiewak.suite101.com/the-2008-st-anthony-friars-a47068  
    That 2008 St Anthony team even beat Tyreke Evans’  American Christian team that had Ach Yacoubou as a freshman back-up PG. 
    ==================================    

    Feel free to add other recruiting busts that you think compare….. 

  • Barney Rubble

    geeesh!  ….You think we just stand around all day and don’t like to dance?   We are wearing pink for pete’s sake and these legs didn’t get this way without doing a bit of the tango and fox trot now & then.   
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VTCvXARapIE/TgvSPDgyrBI/AAAAAAAACVg/XvNmItrDVQQ/s1600/flamingo.jpg  
    You humans, kill me.  

  • mprams

    Is he THAT much more of a bust than Corey Stokes?  Both highly-touted McD’s AA’s. 

    Stokes averaged 9.5 pts and 4 rebounds his junior year.  Cheek currently is at 11.6 pts and 5.1 pts so far through 11 games.  I’d argue that Cheek is the better defender of the two. 

    So while, yeah, he’s been a disappointment, its not like he’s in a class of his own.

  • Popcity1

    True however you forgot to mention that Yocoubou as a sophmore at Luhi scored 24 points to lead them over St. Anthonys to end their four year undefeated streak at home in Cheek’s senior year.

  • Barney Rubble

    Didn’t Adam Zangoria proclaim Yacoubou as the best player on the court that particular night? 
    And Tobias Harris was a LuHi teammate.

  • Hardcore fan

    On a positive note any recruit has got to feel he can come in and start on this team.

  • Muhley

    it is the end of an era. the run is over.

  • Ed’77

    I was thinking, Cord, that someone might cut to the basket and receive a pass.

  • Ed’77

    I was thinking, Cord, that someone might cut to the basket and receive a pass.

  • Popcity1

    True and that was before Yacoubou held the then New York Basketball Player of the Year Brandon Triche to 8 points in the Championship game while scoring 16.

  • Popcity1

    True and that was before Yacoubou held the then New York Basketball Player of the Year Brandon Triche to 8 points in the Championship game while scoring 16.

  • Barney Rubble

    Couldn’t disagree with you more but anyone that actually believes that Dominic Cheek is playing anything but horrible defense in these games is still lohoping for a miracle turn-around to his failed college career.

    Even as a McD AA, Stokes wasn’t as highly rated as Cheek.  Stokes’ label was as a premier sharpshooter and he showed his range in college.   He was disappointing as was Fisher but not on the scale of Dominic Cheek who has become an abysmal college basketball player and one of the reasons the team stinks this year. .    
    And unless Monmouth, LaSalle and Delaware are coming back around again, Cheek is INCAPABLE of averaging even 10ppg when we face Big East competition.   Cheek averaged 22 ppg against the 3 patsy teams at the top of our schedule and has been basically AWOL ever since.  

  • Cord

    But that would imply we run some type of motion offense. Do we have a coach who knows one?

  • Cord

    We are shooting 50% from 2 and 78% from the stripe

  • Doctorfeelgoodes

    yes it seems that we are back where i started w/ vu basketball, hoping we won an eastern 8 game at the field house, scraping out big 5 games making tv once in a while, & a really successfull yr. was making the ncaas. we have been spoiled w/ as you say a really good run. most distressing was a post on here from a student, or self proclaimed student who stated it was not cool to go to games anymore. that i can’t fathom. are the head & the guts both dead??

  • novacat1985

    I also believe the crazy off season with ALL the uncertainty about the very future of the program have weighed heavy on all involved including and most of all JW…. 

  • CTVU_alum

    Just awful. Does anybody care on Lancaster Ave?

  • hoops fan

    Yacoubou is a tremendous talent that is being stifled instead of being utilized and nurtured to grow.

  • hoops fan

    Yacoubou is a tremendous talent that is being stifled instead of being utilized and nurtured to grow.

  • Anonymous

    Here is a really depressing thought and then maybe a fleeting reason to have some hope

    January 17, 2011

    Villanova – 16-1 – Rnk 7
    UConn – 14-2 – Rnk 8

    Since

    Villanova – 2011 Seaon  went 5-11 to finish 21-12
                     – including losses in first round of BE and NCAA to massively inferior teams

                     – 2012 Season 6-5 including 4 losses to inferior teams
                    – Improvement from so

  • Anonymous

    many college coaches believe that the AAU circuit has hampered the development and growth of “team” basketball.  so far this season i have heard coach cal refer to one of kentuckys game as an AAU game, in which they won off sheer athleticism and talent, and also in talking with coach cooley he has seen it a lot more now than in the 80′s and 90′s. maybe that is why the NBA has made these kids go to school for a year.

  • Anonymous

    comparing them to arguably one of the greatest runs in big east/march madness combined is a bit harsh but i can see where you are coming from. boatright just started playing a few weeks ago and drummond hasnt even touched the level of basketball he is accustomed to playing. 

  • Stevie V

    College basketball has a lot of intangibles however at the end of the day players have to be productive as a group as compared to time on the court. There are 200 total minutes available to the coach and it is his job to mix and match the best combination of minutes per player in concert with his game plan. For example, it is certainly ok to have defensive specialists on the court but if they are not combined at the right time with scorers it will difficult to get enough points needed to win the game…..this is not ice hockey where several scores can usually win. There needs to be a consistent game plan EVERY time down the court to score the basketball…Fast break… low post looks… 3 point strategy, the weave, Princeton offense, the triangle etc etc.
     It seems like we have a very undisciplined ….make it up as you go along offense (GUARD U OFFENSE) with many unproductive minutes. It seemed to work very well for us in the Foye, Lowry, Reynolds, Fisher era where the mantra was… my guards can beat your guards… try and stop me.  ….maybe this game plan needs a couple of adjustments as it is not  working so well now.Lets look at the number of Nova players that were unproductive in the St Joes game.Sutton…8 minutes…..0 pointsHilliard…27 minutes…8 pointsYarou….11 minutes   2 pointBell…….30 minutes…5 pointsTJ………24 minutes…6 pointsJVP…….29 minutes…5 pointsCheek….18 minutes…2 pointsTotal 147 minutes……28 pointsIn approximately 74% of the time (147 of 200 minutes) the players mentioned above yielded just 28 points.The question is….. why were so many players unproductive at the same time and how does JW put them in better position to be be more productive going forward.1. Do we have inferior players?….NO2. Is it possible for 7 players to be ice cold at the same time??  NOT LIKELY 3. Does the opposing coach have a better game plan?..SEEMS THAT WAY4. Does Jay have the correct game plan for this current group of players? DOES NOT SEEM THAT WAYIt seems to me that we are running a GUARD U  offense without the elite guards needed and we have not learned how to penetrate a zone defense that every opposing coach is anxious to throw against us…..”fasten your seat belt we we are in for bumpy night”.

  • Sandy

    JW made Martelli look like Dean Smith. You have your players switch 25 feet from the basket leaving your center covering a guard and your guard covering Aiken or Roberts creating a St. Joes dunking hi-lite real for the next decade.

  • mprams

    Go look at the 2009-2010 game log and you’ll notice the same trend in Stokes’ junior season.  In two Big 5 games against St. Joe’s and Temple Stokes put up 4 pts and 5 pts, respectively (in 35 and 34 minutes), and I’d argue that the Hawks and Owls are better this year.  And, his pre-conference ppg is inflated by patsies like FDU, UPenn, and Ole Miss. 

    I thought Dom played good, active defense in the first half against SJU.  He was beat by a backdoor screen in the second half and Jay benched him after that.  Bell was beat on the next play with the same exact screen, without the same repercussions.

  • Rick19

    I honestly think that Wayns could have had double figures in assists if they had guys who could actually shoot.

  • Rick19

    Are you available to take the helm?  We could take up a collection to send you to Brooks Brothers.

  • Rick19

    That is another worrisome trend I am seeing with VU teams the past couple of years.  Add to it that we don’t do very well when the other team’s guys take us off the dribble.  You know what that means?  We don’t have very good players.  But that doesn’t make sense either as we have several very highly touted players.  Hmmmm.  What does this all mean?

  • Rick19

    The thing that I don’t get about Cheek is that it seems to me like he is actually pretty good around the basket.  He drives fairly well, he is big enough to take it to the basket, he is long, I think he finishes fairly well at the basket, shoots foul shots well and he is a pretty decent rebounder.  Wouldn’t it make sense for a guy with that skill set who also struggles from the arc to cut it back to 2-3 attempts from 3 per game and spend the rest of the time driving looking for higher percentage shots or to get fouled.  If we all know that, why doesn’t the coaching staff recognize that also.  I think he would actually be one of our better players if he simply changed his approach.

  • Olga

    You stupid cock sucking assclown, ‘Nova has owned the Big Five over the last six or seven years.  He’s outcoached both Dunphy and Martelli.  It’s amazing how quickly you guys are willing to turn your back on the team after one down year. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EWBRCXF3ETHRA5IA2JWVI5QKDY wildcat07

    This might take away some of the Dean Smith image.  Not sure how accurate this is but SI seems to have eaten it up

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/ncaa/12/19/todd.obrien/index.html

  • NovaFlyer

    This is a college game, played with students.  It is tough to be on top every year.  I prefer that we graduate students who make a real difference in this world, and competitive teams while in school.  That is a tough task for a coach, recruit student athletes who will truly represent your school for why it exists, which is not to play sports alone but to produce students who will make a difference in something beyond sports.

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