Sloppy Cats’ Bucked By Broncos

Posted by Brian Ewart on November 27, 2011 · Under Recap · 227 Comments 

Villanova struggled to defend on the perimeter again, and lost its second straight to Santa Clara in a 65-64 nail biter. After falling behind by as much as 8 points in the first half, the Wildcats climbed back into the lead, going to halftime up 35-34 over the Santa Clara Broncos. They held that lead for most of the second half, and were ahead by five points with a minute left in the game, but a series of mistakes and miscues allowed Santa Clara to close the gap and hand the ‘Cats their second loss, 65-64.

A key moment late in the game saw Santa Clara close within three points with possession of the ball and just 7 seconds left in the game. Darrun Hilliard intentionally fouled Evan Roquemore, but there appeared to be some confusion on the bench. When the referees awarded free-throws, Jay Wright exploded, pulling the referee aside on the issue.

According to assistant coach Doug West, the referees told the Nova bench they had a foul to give prior to that play. The scoreboard apparently also read just 5 team fouls on Villanova. The official scorekeeper had a different count, however, and the Santa Clara shooter went to the line and put the Broncos within 1 point.

“That was crazy, but we did everything we could possibly do wrong after that,” head coach Jay Wright told reporters afterward. “So it was much more on us.”

After the free-throws, the ‘Cats struggled getting the ball inbounds through pressure, eventually getting it in to JayVaughn Pinkston who was immediately fouled. Pinkston missed the first shot of a 1-and-1 and a Santa Clara player grabbed the rebound. Pinkston then fouled Roquemore again, giving the Broncos a chance to win it on the line.

He made both free throws to give the Broncos a one-point lead and left the ‘Cats with just 4 seconds to try and win the game.

Maalik Wayns tried a half-court prayer as time expired, but was off-target.

The Villanova lead was as big as 9 points with 3 minutes remaining, but a combination of sloppy play and poor shooting allowed the Broncos back into the game. Five of the Wildcats’ 14 turnovers came in the last three minutes. They also failed to score again after a Darrun Hilliard three-point jumper with 3:35 left on the clock.

Hilliard was replaced in the starting line-up by JayVaughn Pinkston, who made his first college start for the ‘Cats on his 20th birthday. He scored 6 points on 1-of-1 shooting from beyond the arc (1-of-3 overall) and added 4 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal and 3 turnovers.

Mouph Yarou scored 19 points to lead the Wildcats in the loss. He added 7 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 blocks as well. Dominic Cheek and Maalik Wayns each added another 10 points and were the only other Wildcats in double-digits.

Wayns lead the team with 3 assists and with 4 turnovers.

The Wildcats shot 37.5% from beyond the arc, lead by James Bell who connected on two-of-5 attempts (40%). Four other players connected on at least one three point attempt. The team shot 41.2% overall from the floor and 72.7% at the charity stripe.

Santa Clara, meanwhile, connected on 44% of their shots from the field, 40.7% from deep and 90.9% from the free-throw line. Forward Raymond Cowels III lead the way with 20 points and connecting on 6 shots from deep. Roquemore scored 15 points, made 8 free throws for the Broncos, and lead their attack with 9 assists.

“Their three guards dominated the game,” Wright told the Philadelphia Daily News. “Not only did they score, but defensively, they got in us. We couldn’t get by them.

“I just love those three guards. But that’s college basketball. Guards are college basketball.”

Villanova drops to 4-2 on the season with the loss and will look to bounce back next weekend against Penn at home.

  • Lacollaf

    This team is awlful! No discipline and coaching. It’s going to to a tough and growing year.

  • Koz ’67

    When does football season begin?

  • James Harvey

    I hate to think how we lost this game. We had an 8-point lead with a couple of minutes to go. We were up three with seconds to go. It’s astounding. It’s not often you see every conceivable mistake that could be made being made by everyone on the floor and the sideline, but there it was.

    In the last two years, our guys have thought themselves unbeatable going into January. That’s not a mistake I expect to see repeated this year.

  • Jimdribble

    That was horrible.
    1. No other College team has lost a game when up by three points in regulation with 8 seconds or less left. We have lost two. That is unacceptable.
    2. Wayns did not take control at the end. He made three major mistakes and did not even go to get the ball at the end of the game.
    3. Why did Jay have Pinkston in at the end knowing they would foul us. Cheek had a horrible game but he makes his foul shots. Pinkston is a freshman.
    4. I think Wayns is allergic to throwing the ball to Mouph. Mouph got 3 touches in the last ten minutes and Wayns missed him so many times even Wright yelled at him. 

    I am past disgusted. The talent is there.

  • Robinson ’73

    FIRE JAY WRIGHT !!!  
    The man is pathetic as a game coach.   The Final Four was a long time ago and he has done nothing but under achieve since then.        

  • mprams

    By “more to come” do you mean sh*tty play and losses to inferior talent?

  • Sandy

    I actually enjoyed the later part of the second half when Wayns was on the bench. Nova played better as a team and the defensive intensity was maintained at all 5 positions.
    This is the first time that I can recall in 40 plus years of playing/watching basketball that the bench did not know how many fouls their team had.

  • Longbeachnova

    Was at the game, every single person in the house thought nova had a foul to give. I went to all three games and I’m ashamed to say it because I live 20 minutes from the convention center and was proud to host nova but the venue and the big west are a f’n joke.

  • Johnnyb1

    Where is the Facebook icon for ” I don’t like this”?

  • Johnnyb1

    Where is the Facebook icon for ” I don’t like this”?

  • Jimdribble

    I really would like to see Johnson get more minutes. Yes he is a Freshman but this team needs a pure point guard who gets everyone involved and knows how to feed the post. Johnson feed it three times in his short time in WAYNS ZERO

  • Jimdribble

    I really would like to see Johnson get more minutes. Yes he is a Freshman but this team needs a pure point guard who gets everyone involved and knows how to feed the post. Johnson feed it three times in his short time in WAYNS ZERO

  • Doctorfeelgoodes

    i agree. i liked the chemistry much better w/o wayns. & yes the error on the bench re: fouls is inexcusible.

  • Doctorfeelgoodes

    i agree. i liked the chemistry much better w/o wayns. & yes the error on the bench re: fouls is inexcusible.

  • Doctorfeelgoodes

    the coaches should have caught the discrepancy in fouls… period. no excuses.

  • Doctorfeelgoodes

    the coaches should have caught the discrepancy in fouls… period. no excuses.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KOC22RU72ANMEYVFV2H57PGXDQ Christopher

    I am from california but went to villanova
    Santa Clara beating us is like Fairfield beating us
    It just doesn’t happen!
    15 wins max this yr
    Vu is like a loose raft in choppy waters

  • Doctorfeelgoodes

    no oarsmen & no captain???

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KOC22RU72ANMEYVFV2H57PGXDQ Christopher

    Agree Santa Clara is a joke this is the biggest win in there history
    Pathetic

  • Barney Rubble

    Well if the Head Coach isn’t held accountable, then why should the assistants be held accountable.

  • NovaFlyer

    we lost played almost well, go to the next

  • Sandy

    JW must be spending time with Andy Reid.

  • NovaHoops

    scrap the boat. were barely keeping our heads above the water

  • http://twitter.com/novahoops0304 kjm

    you bite your tounge, with all this FBS drama we may never see someone as talented as Jay step foot on campus again

  • http://twitter.com/stevefxs3 Steve Slade

    That’s going to be a LONG 5+ hour flight home……

    Pluses from the weekend:
    1.  Kennedy could be something.  Nice moves tonight, just looks a bit tentative.
    2.  Bell.  I could see him becoming the team leader by late-season.
    3.  Wayns.  Took control of the game on Friday, but disappeared tonight

    Minuses:
    1.  TJ, Ash not ready.
    2.  JVP.  Friday was a liability on both D and Offense.  Better today but made some bonehead plays.
    3.  Perimeter defense.  They locked it down for about 10 minutes today.  Just need to extend that for 30 minutes.
    4.  Inbound plays… can we get some… and some that make sure Wayns, Cheek or Hilliard get the ball?

    Last year and the year before, I’d probably be looking for a new HDTV after today’s game… but after the Lasalle OT game and the STL loss on Friday, my expectations for this season are in the toilet.

  • NovaFlyer

    I thought the same…

  • ot

    I’m wondering whether James Bell was trying to draw  attention to himself during the time out to receive the Miss America award or an All American award.

  • HerronBros

    Absolutly disgusted with this.  It starts with questionable coaching… 1) Not having the foul situation correct is OUR fault.  You check that with the scorers table!!  2) Why would you have a Freshman inbounding the ball at the end of the game – we should have had a 5 second call.  3) Wayns just stood there with his feet gluded to the  floor – he should be a) set up via a pick to at least get the ball or b) want to aggressively go get the ball – he stood there! 4) as a result JVP got the ball and and the foul shot ugh!  Then the Foul!!!      Coaches put players in position to win – we had guys in position to lose – and we did….  It’s going to be a long and painful season!!!

  • Cord

    Is anyone in the country playing worse than Cheek. Not being able to inbound the ball has been a problem for years– So many of the same problems year after year>> coaching abysmal. ANd yes we give up another career high

  • Spot ck

    JW’s teams don’t grow!! They just fade away!!

  • Greatgoldengod

    It was two years ago assclown

  • Spot ck

    Unfortunately so is the one that smothers that talent!!

  • OldCat

    Based on this performance, the best we can expect in the big east is 4 – 14.

  • super nova

    I think that Nova will win only few games in the BE.  It may be not good enough for the NIT.

  • Spot ck

    Larry Brown will be at practice tomorrow!

    Bite your tongue and hope Jay Wright is not at practice tomorrow. LOL

  • JD

    Give me a break. I agree it was a terrible loss but you have a team with limited playing experience especially together.  What did the nay sayers say about wayns last game when he had 28 points. Sure the bench made an error. Last year it was get rid of Fisher and let wayns run the team , now he is under the bus already. Stop being a bunch of cry babbies.

  • Bill ’62

    A lot of the folks here think our team is horrible… awful… disgusting… let’s fire the coach!  I guess that’s one way to look at it.  Another way, and one that I prefer, is to realize that our team isn’t as good as we want it to be at this point; but because of that, they need our support more than ever.  It’s a young team, and they’re making a lot of young team mistakes, but I think we’ll see improved maturity and teamwork as the season progresses.  I’m disappointed in the way things are going, and I’m still sulking over the way we lost to Santa Clara; but I don’t see any value in venting frustrations in such extreme negative ways as many here do.  We all want the team to do better, but we’re not helping it improve by letting the kids hear us saying they’re horible and terrible.  I dislike it when Villanova loses, but what I dislike even more is having to read how many here so easily lose support for the team.  We’re spoiled – we expect championship teams every year, but that’s just not going to happen.  I think this young team has some potential and we’ll see improved performanaces as the season progresses; but if that doesn’t happen, they’re still Villanova’s team and they’ll have my full support.

  • Jello

    That spin move to the bucket by Kennedy was sweet. 

  • Spot ck

    You didn’t name the person that should be in the toilet with the season. lol

  • Cord

    championship teams??>> which of those have we won. Same mistakes year after year>> no accountability for JW?

  • Cord

    As opposed to his 4 missed 2 footers?

  • Jimdribble

    Bill I agree. My frustration is that the talent is there. Kennedy will be good. Pinkston will be good. They are just freshman. But what bothers me is Wayns and yes I was critical of him when he scored 29 points. He needs to take CHARGE out there and be a leader. A leader makes the right pass and runs to the ball when it is being inbounded. I thought he would step up more this year. 

    Yarou is a stud. NBA scouts are noticing it. Yes, he makes a few mistakes but he has worked hard to develop a mid-range jumper. He is working harder for position. Feed him the damn rock.

  • JD

    Hey cord he’s a rookie. Give him a break.

  • Spot ck

    Cheek is something I’m not familiar with…!! Never saw such a drop-off,ever!!
    It’s something, I hope it’s something we can all deal with.(He’s just a head case).

    4th career high this season, what 6 games!! It’s so telling, a total lack of preparation.

  • ZAB

    This was an embarrassing full 40 minutes, and it only got worse as the game went on. This team simply is not dedicated on the defensive end. Duren from LaSalle and Saddler from Delaware each had career highs against us. Then, Jett and St. Louis torched us from deep, setting a 76 Classic tournament record for most threes in a game. Then tonight, Santa Clara drained 11 threes on us. We are by far more athletic than any team we have played so far, so it shouldn’t be so hard to defend the three point line!! Play with more intensity!!

     It is very difficult to watch a team of this talent and athleticism struggle this much. On offense we have no consistent three point threat, and absolutely no chemistry or ball movement. Wayns needs to get everyone more involved. Bell and Cheek need to attack the basket more, and Mouph needs to get more touches. No team has proved they can stop him thus far.

    I was hoping that this team would be similar to the 07-08 team which also had  no seniors and made the sweet 16, but it doesn’t look like it. They struggled in the regular season, but not nearly this much. Hopefully they will learn to play better as a team and gell better as the season progresses, or we will be in for a long one.

  • Cord

    Limited playing experience?>> you have 3 juniors who were part of the #3 class in the nation. You have a soph who played international ball last year. You have a 4th year seven footer. And Santa Clara lost by 33 last week to who?? PULEAZE

  • BIG DADDY

    REMEMBER THE NAME OF THIS RECRUIT….MYLES DAVIS…HE’S HEADED TO XAVIER. A BIG TIME SHOOTER, MUCH IN THE MOLD OF ARAY’S GAME. A GUY THAT WANTED NOVA BAD BUT JAY TOLD HIM NO PRETTY MUCH. WE WILL REGRET MISSING OUT ON A SHOOTER LIKE HIM. GOOD NEWS IS AMILE IS OUT THE PICTURE SO MAYBE WE CAN FIND A DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH SHOOTER SOMEWHERE.

  • Spot ck

    At least we have experience with painful seasons!! Thanks, Jay!!

  • Cord

    Many frosh all over the country impact the game.I get that but he had a fifth year prep. He will not be a factor this year in league play>> too soft and slow

  • Cord

    Drop-off?? He has underachieved his whole career

  • Cord

    Myles Davis failed out of his hs and had to go to a prep. He can shoot it but not much else and a shaky kid

  • BIG DADDY

    HOW CAN SANTA CLARA FIND ALL THOSE SHOOTERS AND WE CAN’T GET ONE? NOT ONE? IT’S SAD……CREDIT TO BELL HE IS A MUCH BETTER OUTSIDE SHOOTER THEN I THOUGHT HE WAS….FROM WATCHING HIM IN HS.

  • BIG DADDY

    THAT TEAM HAD THE 2ND BEST SCORER IN VILLANOVA HISTORY. NOT TO MENTION TOUGHER PLAYERS….

  • BIG DADDY

    EHHH I TAKE THAT BACK, OUR TEAM ISNT SOFT ITS JUST MORE THEY AREN’T VERY GOOD…..THEY DID PLAY THEIR HEARTS OUT AND IT’S MORE ON JAY THEN THEM

    ALL THE FT GOOD FT SHOOTERS ON THE TEAM YET THE WORST ONE GETS OUR FT’S AT THE END…..IM STILL CRYING AND LAUGHING ABOUT THAT…..WELL DONE JAY.

  • Joegrane

    That’s just short term memory. How did the Foye-Ray team look as sophs?

  • Popcity1

    How the he– does Yacoubou play 2min. while Cheek get torched 6-9 from 3 point range by Raymond Cowels? Ash proved he could guard Phil Martin 2points in 20 min. and did a great job on Kyle Cassity 0points in 10 min. and even today in his 2 min. guarding Kevin Foster 0points as Villanova came back and took the lead with him on the floor. SOMBODY, ANYBODY CALL LARRY BROWN JW needs to replace the coach responsible for keeping track of fouls. Larry Brown should be hired to Assist/Mentor JW.  

  • BIG DADDY

    DIDNT KNOW HIS GRADES WERE THAT BAD…..I’D TAKE HIM OVER CHEEK THOUGH. AND IF HE DOES MAKE IT TO COLLEGE HE WILL PERFORM. THE KID HAS A GOOD GAME AND GREAT STROKE. AND HE CAN ACTUALLY DRIBBLE A BASKETBALL…..I BLAME COACH HURLEY

  • BIG DADDY

    I’MA TELL YOU THIS IF I WAS COACHING THE TEAM….CHEEK WOULDA BEEN BENCHED FAST….AND ASH WOULDA STARTED PLAYING…..I COULD CARE LESS WHAT GRADE CHEEK WAS IN…..IF HE’S MAD AND WANTS TO TRANSFER….DONT WORRY IM NOT HOLDING YOU BACK

  • Joegrane

    Last year and early this year he has been a streaky shooter.  He could go off for 15+ but be cold other nights.  Maybe he is developing or maybe just on a roll recently.  It is certainly welcome, especially when Cheek is cold.

  • Jimdribble

    What kills me is you see all these people sitting on the bench in suits. Student managers, grad assistants etc. How can it be that one does not keep track of team fouls? If you are going to foul you have one of the suits check with the official scorer as to how many team fouls there are. I cannot believe they all missed Wayns committing the offensive foul

  • BIG DADDY

    CHEEK THE NEXT KERRY KITTLES……AHH THOSE WERE THE DAYS….THE FRESHMAN DAYS WHERE THE GREAT HYPE SURROUNDS 5 STAR RECRUITS……….WHAT I WOULDNT GIVE TO GO BACK TO THOSE DAYS

  • ZAB

    Wayns could catch up to Reynolds if we continues to average 20 ppg over the next 2 seasons, and if we stays. To your second point, I absolutely agree. Mouph has a lot of toughness similar to Dante, but nobody on this team is comparable to Anderson, Redding, or Reynolds.

  • Ray

    This game reflects the sloppy play that is the hallmark of a Jay Wright team. The man can recruit, but there are at least two McDonalds All-Americans on Villanova’s team, and this team is having a difficult time with Santa Clara? What? Jay Wright has to be FIRED! Then, Villanova can go out and find a decent coach. Otherwise, you will get more of the same.

  • Spot ck

    Bill,
    And that’s your right.

    This is a sports site where people react in oh so many ways, that is their right and it’s not for us to
    judge.

    If fans can’t pop-off here, where can they pop-off

    We are allowed as fans to sit in judgment of our coach, 2 million + a year is not exactly, out of the goodness of his heart.

    If the people on this site didn’t support their team, they wouldn’t be here.

    JW has a job to do, to us it’s a game, a game we care very much about, as Barney has said on more than one occasion, when you recruit 4star and 5star with some 3star thrown in, there comes a time
    when people expect 4star & 5 star results.

    I for one think the time has come for that judgment, the results are not there, and I support my team
    and whatever changes have to be made to get the results these young players deserve.

    When the players don’t get what they deserve and should expect from the coaching staff it’s time
    to check your fan-hood. IMHO, the players are being short-changed, they’re not getting what they
    signed-up for.

    I’ll continue to support the team until changes are made, if no changes, old, old fans just fade away!!
    That’s my right.

  • BradO

    I don’t blame the kids, ever.  They are, for the most part, blue-chip players, who come to Nova expecting their games to blossom and mature.  The problem is, they generally don’t.  That’s all on the coaching staff.  Our best recruiting class (Foye, Sumpter, Ray, etc) came to us courtesy of Fred Hill’s efforts.  After Fred left, what followed was a parade of blue chippers, like Reynolds, who came on the strength of Nova’s reputation.  I don’t think Jay is very good at developing the potential of these kids, and he certainly suffers from a myopic offensive game plan that has remained largely un-changed in his 10 years.  Tonights groaner occurred because Jay stopped attacking at the 3 minute mark when we had a 9-pt lead, with the result  that we went the final 3 minutes with -0- pts.  You can’t do that against a strong 3-pt shooting team like SC, but it’s the only way Jay knows how to coach, so we stumbled to the finish and lose, as we do far too often.  He took good players, and by forcing them to stop attacking, which helped build the 9-pt lead, they made mistakes.  Jay changes the defensive schemes, but never, ever, changes our offensive flow.  He has a slow-down, half-court set offense, and a kill-the-clock offense, neither of which works well with this years team.  He needs to let them run, or at least try it once in a while.

  • Spot ck

    They would have done better without “coaching”.

    You can be as critical of the players as you see fit, your a damn good fan and I feel your pain.

    The “BUCK STOPS HERE” isn’t an abstract, hippie expression without meaning.

    ESPN and the rest of the BB world knows where the buck stops, and they are speaking out, it’s that time! 

  • Spot ck

    Please!!!

  • http://twitter.com/Brian_Ewart Brian Ewart

    We’ll get some spring practice info after New Years. ;-)

  • Spot ck

    Your not serious!!

    I go back to Paul Arizen, but the last 3 years will do.

    Joe, believe me JW is very aware of where he is!!

  • Spot ck

    Agree, got carried away, being our leading scorer I penciled him in offensively C-Mouph G-Wayns
    Wing-Cheek. Plus Bell and any other kids that step-up.(That didn’t last long).

  • Spot ck

    12 days ago.
    Perennial Power  UC – Santa Barara. (56-89).

  • Spot ck

    6 Games  4 Career Highs.

  • Spot ck

    ESPN is talking about the game as if we were ranked in the Top 5.(All Night)

  • BIG DADDY

    WE CANT BEAT THESE CLOWNS ….THE BIG EAST IS GOING TO DESTROY US….IM TALKIN WE’RE GOING TO BE ON RUTGERS AND USF LEVELS

  • BIG DADDY

    OH AND DEPAUL

  • jon

    three years ago

  • jon

    technically two years ago but three seasons ago

  • jon

    stop using caps, you’re not special. and it’s very annoying.

  • Spot ck

    Count on more of the same!!

  • Barney Rubble

    Myles Davis was discussed here many, many times.   We even compared him to Allan Ray as an undersized 2 guard who can shoot.   
    He comes from the same town as Tyrone.   Matter of fact, Myles, TJ and Desmond Hubert all mentioned possibly attending the same school together at one point.  

    The story was supposedly Jay offered both Davis and Jermaine Sanders during June of 2010 but when neither accepted by end of July, Jay gave the scholarship to Darrun Hilliard who immediately accepted.    Now the story was leaked by then that Davis was reclassifying from 2011 to 2012 so maybe his grades became a factor but he had an offer from Villanova at one point. 
    Hilliard (Liberty) had faced Sanders (Rice) in a Team Week Championship game at Villanova that June so Jay had seen them both but then Hilliard had a HUGE July on the AAU circuit and they grabbed him.
    (With Yacoubou & Pinkston in tow, there was no really need for Sanders who is another “thick” wing player out of NYC.  Cincinnati got Sanders eventually.).    

    I called Hilliard a “Nick Faust Lite” but Darrun was leading Faust in almost every category before today’s game including shooting.   Faust is being forced to play out of position at PG for Maryland so far this season.   

  • JR92

    We do have good shooters — Bell, Cheek, Wayns, and yes even Hilliard can all knock down the 3.  Problem is we mostly jack them up from 23 feet and beyond with a man in our face.  I saw Bell give up a complete open look, only later to shoot a highly contested 3.  They look tentative out there.  I think it all goes back to coaching.  It’s clear Wayns has free reign.  Kennedy gets in there, makes a few great moves, then has one travel and is yanked.  There is no team play because there is no team offense.  It’s always been this way with Nova teams under Jay Wright.  I believe our success in the past was due to team chemistry compensating for a lack of coaching. 

    Jay Wright has been great for the program but this team should be better and if we have another weak season with this talent, it really is time for a change.  Great guy, hate to say it, but tonight was just ludicrous — echoes of last years Rutgers game from which we never recovered.  Terrible execution — can only be blamed on the coaching.

  • EdMcM

    more mistakes/stupid plays/lack of game awareness/inability to do basic things under moderate pressure in the last 3-4 minutes than i thought possible.

    gimme a tough hard-nosed player with some court smarts, ability to focus, and to execute basics like dribbling and foul-shooting than a basketful of what i saw down the stretch.  season still very young but imo coach has to find who his PLAYERS are that fit that description above.

    4 fouls with the lead in the last minute of play!!!  Anyone ever see that before????  One of the basic rules of how to win down the stretch is make the other team earn it and don’t let them score with the clock off

    anyways, rant over.  onto next game!!

  • BIG DADDY

    NO PURE SHOOTERS….MOST GUARDS IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL CAN HIT A 3 HERE AND THERE…..DOING IT CONSISTENTLY IS ANOTHER THING.

  • FruitLoops

    Here’s a point I’d like to make.

    Villanova has 3 McDAA on their roster (Cheek, Wayns, Pinkston)

    Of all the teams in college basketball, only 8 other programs have as many on their roster this year.

    The teams are the following:
    Duke
    UNC
    Kentucky
    Louisville
    Memphis
    Florida
    Ohio State
    UCLA

    About 80% of McDAA’s play in the NBA eventually.  Of the McDAA’s we’ve had in Jay Wright’s tenure (which I believe is 7), NONE have played in the NBA at any point.

    Point being, I don’t think we should have to sweat out contests against the likes of Santa Clara regardless of what strategy is employed.

  • super nova

    Every team in the BE and Big Five can beat Nova.  Do we hope for invitation to the NIT even though it only is the beginning of the season?

  • dj86

    My son’s 6th grade team lost after being up 5 with 90 seconds to go last weekend.  The AD director, a Nova grad, told the coach when a team is up by five with under a minute and half to go and loses….it is the coaches fault…my son’s coach has a full time job outside of basketball, what’s JW’s excuse?

  • scooter1957

    Deja VU

  • Rick19

    Sorry Ray but you are wrong.  We don’t have two McDonalds AA’s on this team.  We have at least three and maybe four of them.  Wayns, Mouph, JVP, and Cheek?. 

    To me the team’s performance in Calif this week is a microcosm of all of the things that many have complained about on this board for some time.  And that is that Jay can’t coach.  In fact, I’m not so sure that he can recruit either.  We keep talking about all these great players he brings in.  Maybe the truth is that we are only getting the McD AA’s that nobody else wants.  Something happens to these guys when they get here.  They get stiff or something.  They can’t play.  Guys that were dominant HS players put on a Nova uniform and they are tripping over their own feet, they get into the lane two feet from the basket and instead of going up and slamming it, they start with the multi pump fake dance that they do only to walk or get the ball stripped or just flat out miss a lay up.  And, they cannot shoot.  How can every team that we play find multiple guys that nobody has ever heard of before that shoot the lights out against us?  Is it just bad luck or is there something else going on?

    As for coaching, we have new Assistant Coaches, we have a bunch of new players, we have lost the rumored bad attitudes of the past couple of years yet we still can’t inbounds the ball, we still can’t hold a lead, we can’t come up with a play to get a decent shot off when we need one, we take bad shots coming out of timeouts, we foul guys 40 feet away from the basket yet we still give up large numbers of 3 point baskets, we refuse to pass the ball inside, we still have turnover issues, etc.  And with all of the experience in the coaching staff and the money we pay these guys, they don’t know how many fouls we have at a crucial point in the game.  The old saying is that a fish rots from the head back.

  • Rick19

    …..all over again.

  • G_Dizzle

    Stokes was a big drop off, underachieving the second half of every year. He can put 30 points up against Penn, but be a non factor against the Pitts/UConns.

    Give the kid a break, tough tournament for him.

  • Cord

    I agree that JW has many talents and has done a tremendous amount for our program. However X’s and O’s and game management are not 2 of them and we have to live with that

  • Jimdribble

    I have to say this. In some ways I did not like Rollie Massimino but there were certain things that he did.
    1. At the end of the game he would get the ball into the upperclassmen for key foul shots. He would get Freshman out of the game and push the ball in to an upperclassman who could shoot foul shots. Pinkston should never have been in there. I feel sorry for the kid as you do not throw it in to a Freshman to shoot a 1 on 1.
    2. I remember one day at the Nevin Field House where Rollie was screaming at Stewart Granger and had him work over an hour on just passing the ball into the post to Pickney and Pinone. Rollie’s point guards be it Rory Sparrow or Stewart Granger or Joe Rogers or Kenny Wilson knew how to feed the post and knew how to pass the ball. I feel that Jay has never had a good passing point guard. He recruits point guards who play “take em” ball. 

  • Cord

    JW doesn’t want a pass first pg, he prefers a score first mentality at pg

  • Rick19

    You are 1000% correct.  And that is a big part of the problem with our program.  Just look at Jay’s comments after the game.  He was gushing about Santa Clara’s guard play.  He is so stuck in that guard rut he can’t see over the top of it.  It’s just too bad that he can’t design a play to get the ball to our point guard when we are being pressed.  Every year.

  • Jimdribble

    Ever since Hofstra and Speedy Claxton Jay has been enamored with guards who are not pass first. I watched the last three minutes on tape and I could not believe the decision making of Wayns. Mouph worked so hard and had incredible position in the blocks twice and Wayns forced the action and threw up an air ball and an offensive foul. 

  • mprams

    You raise a great (and depressing) point FruitLoops.  That stat is a little misleading though.  Jason Fraser blew out his knees.  Taylor King was a headcase and a Duke castoff for a reason.  And Scottie should have been in the NBA had he left after his freshman year (though I’m glad he stuck around).

  • Dom

    Good Post.  IMO Jay  should not recruit big men, he simply doesn’t  have the skills to bring them along.  He’d be in hog heaven with 5 guards, if he knew he wouldn’t get fired.  The man is simply not a  game coach.  The way he views guards as college basketball is way out of sync, has no clue of the team approach.  Doesn’t know a BB play from a Broadway play, never will.  Average coach, very nice suits, that’s about it. Buckle up, rough road ahead

  • Dom

    Good Post.  Rollie knew how to finish a game.

  • Case

    When is Jay going to put in an Out-of-Bounds play that works on both ends of the floor?  His plays have worked a total on 2 times in his time at Nova.  Once to Cunningham against Cincinnati and the other to Scottie in the tournament which only worked because Blair played matador defense.  And do you really want a Freshman in-bounding the ball at such a crucial moment.  Hillard almost got a 5 second call then almost threw the ball away.

  • Spot ck

    Rick,
    ESPN- News Desk.” Villanova, last season all rolled into one game”.

    PS: Painful but very well said on your part.

  • LM 92

    Saw a few minutes of the first half, but not the whole game (Thank God)

    Just looked at the schedule…..don’t play until this comin Saturday, so a lot of time to improve/ correct, whatever in practice…..but look at our next 3 games:
    Penn at home (if we don’t win this, forget the entire season, because the next 2)……
    MIssouri at MSG
    Temple at Temple
    Can you imagine being 4-5 after the next 3 games.
    Jay’s best coaching move at this point in the season is to ban them from reading this site, because the kids will all be distraught after reading all of our comments.

  • Spot ck

    Excellent points.

    We’re just looking at different places to correct the problems.

  • The Oreo

    Two points, one optomistic, one pessimistic:
    1 – i see wayns developing (or “under-developing) the same way as reynolds. He was amazing, but when it became his team he forced the issue and tried to do too much. A guard should make the rest of the team better, but Wayns and Reynolds seem to do the opposite.
    2 – A VERY significant portion of our minutes are from freshman on their 6th NCAA game ever. These guys show great promise and potential. Once they ripen this year I still believe we can be an EXCELLENT team, as long as Wayns is willing to share the ball.

  • Cord

    And because Dixon defended full court like a moron

  • Spot ck

    Jay always raves about the team that just embarrassed us.

    One mirror in Jay’s house-hold could work wonders.

  • Spot ck

    Guard U, seems we are getting beat by guards on a regular basis.

  • Robberbaron9

    Relax…this team just doesn’t know how to win yet…they are quality and competitive, just dumb and immature…it took Randy Foye 3 years to win, and previous teams had to rely on Scottie…this team is very young and has the pieces…hopefully Jay will have this all worked out by the time the Big East schedule rolls around…

  • Cord

    The team foul situation was not damaging basketball wise>> many coaches play that way anyway and there was obviously confusion in the arena. I don’t think that’s on Jay at all>> it’s the assistant but even he gets a little pass as West said the official told them they had one to give. But it certainly looks real dumb.It’s the other stuff that’s a killer. In bounds plays, not being able to score out of a timeout, etc. Jay is not able to coach to his talent>. does not have enough bullets in his arsenal. It is fine to slow the game down early when you have Fisher, Stokes and Wayns on the floor to make 90% of their ft’s but it is another thing when you only have Wayns, Cheek(if he can stay upright) and young mistake prone players. In addition it is fine to shoot 3′s and play 4 guards when you have that personnel- we don’t this year. Our most consistent and effective scorer is Moof and that should be our offensive focus. That approach will also make the game easier for our young perimeter players. Unfortunately we are stuck with JW who has many strengths. So we can be like kishjerk with Wayns and list these deficiencies ad nauseum, or we can accept this(or petition his firing) and hope these players pedigree comes through. I just don’t understand why JW doesn’t get a veteran non Villanova bred assistant who is an X & O guy. He has to know his weaknesses as a coach about now with any type of introspection.

  • Spot ck

    A break??
    Wrong post, I had him down as my break-out player.
    The fault I find has nothing to do with the players.

  • Hardcore fan

    Maybe that’s why they scheduled a trip to disney early in the season. 

    Who could have predicted that on the Taylor King (minus Taylor of course) trip that Cheek would carry on the full mental meltdown in his honor. Classic!  You couldn’t plan for such things but you certainly could have taken some action as a coach.

  • Cord

    Spot On Quik Chek

  • Tommyboy

    …..or not.

  • Luke

    Three McDonald’s All-American’s and Mouph 14th ranked player in the ’09 class in the starting lineup and this is what we get? Wake me next year.

  • Anonymous

    Not sure team is awful, but it has a ways to go. Some of the frosh had glimpses of brillance. Just no consistency from anyone other than Yarou and he doesn’t get enough touches.Don’t seem to have much flow on offense, and ‘help’ defense doesn’t work against athletic teams. Hard to believe that they allowed 16- 3pters and yet lost on the foul line. Need to go straight up man to man, enough of the sagging off 3 pt shooters and giving them open shots. Notice how SC players were moving, setting up screens, catching the ball and shooting 3′s whereas the Cats pass the ball around the perimeter and then try to reverse to the open 3. Easy to defend when you know where you man is going to be.

  • SWhiteparty08

    The foul situation was not Villanova caoching staff’s fault.  VILLANOVA had the foul situation correct.  They were told BY THE OFFICIALS and confirmed BY THE SCORING TABLE that they had a foul to give.  I’m wondering if they would have unraveled the way they did if not for all the confusion?

    http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2011/11/27/sports/doc4ed309d819fba333603923.txt?viewmode=fullstory

  • Rick19

    This has been the rap on him for a couple of years now though.  Wouldn’t you think steps would be taken to address this shortcoming?

  • Rick19

    It makes me want to throw up.

  • Cord

    Don’t forget our inablilty to defend the 3 pt in JW’s weaknesses but as I said enough of that.
    On the positive I think this team passes the ball better than we have in a long time

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SMR776KFHPQSY3KVMAQYX5K67U James

    Bill, for the most part I agree and echo your sentiments.  I would like to think that most of the negative comments are out of immediate frustration and, given time, would be somewhat tempered.  As a graduate of Villanova in the mid 1970′s I witnessed the end of the Jack Kraft era and the beginning of the Massimino coached era, it wasn’t all the pretty.  However over time, we tend to remember the good teams/years (i.e. 1985) and forget what it took to lay the foundation for those teams.  Although like some I question the in-bounds plays by the team, we shouldn’t forget those similar plays resulted in game winning baskets by Sheridan and Cunningham not that long ago.  Hopefully as the season progresses, we can look back on the past few days as growth to a better team.  Lastly, Coach Wright during his tenure has run a competitive program in a manner, and with student athletics, that make most alumni/fans proud.     

  • The Rock

    Indoor track season begins soon! Sheila Reid will be taking a break from winning national championships but will come back blazing during outdoor track season. Luckily there is plenty of talent and incredible coaching that should see some spectacular times with both the men and women.

  • SWhiteparty08

    Actually, Villanova had the CORRECT number of team fouls.  They were led to believe otherwise by two different sources….

    http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2011/11/27/sports/doc4ed309d819fba333603923.txt?viewmode=fullstory

  • http://twitter.com/Brian_Ewart Brian Ewart

    So here is my question to the “fire Jay Wright” crowd:

    What realistic candidate would you hire to replace him?

    Coach K isn’t walking through that door. You aren’t going to get a big name coach. You would have to take a risk hiring an assistant coach or a low-to-mid-major head coach. Some of those guys are great coaches, but until you see them coach high-major talent against high-major opponents, you may never really know what they bring to the table.

    Villanova took a tremendous chance when they hired Jay Wright, and for the most part it has worked out. A decade of winning basketball ensued. Nova is a very coach-driven program, and replacing Wright means rolling those dice again. You could just as easily hire a bust.

    Elite head coaches don’t grow on trees. Jay Wright built the program back up after it came crumbling down in the latter part of Lappas’ tenure. Villanova is not a blue blood program like Duke, UNC or Kentucky, finding a coach is tougher on the Main Line, recruiting is tougher, winning is tougher.

    Under Wright, Villanova has been elite more often than not. So who can replace him? Who wants to follow that up? Can you really move on with anything less than a slam-dunk hire?

  • N34110

    There were some could signs from the game. Kennedy seems like he can play, as do all the Freshmen. JVP will get better. He needs to learn to jump straight up, rather than forward or sideways, when he goes for his shots. He’s always falling on top of people, but that will be corrected. He’s very quick for his size and just needs time.

    On the bad side, it’s obvious that Cheek still can’t dribble left handed in transition or on the break without fumbling the ball, nor can he square up and take anyone off the dribble. Whoever said he was playing like Kittles must have been blind. He’s a one dimensional streak shooter who didn’t deserve the adulation he had coming out of high school. We needed him for his year, ala wayns, and it looks like it’ll be a long year since we’ll need to develop freshmen instead.

    JW knows how to coach and most of his critics here are nothing but rank amateurs who think if they establish themselves as a board personality by posting 25 times per game, then we’re supposed to genuflect to their basketball wisdom, etc. ad nauseam. Many JW teams played fearless defense in the past, so the problem isn’t coaching. Rather than thinking that our recent JW teams have underacheived, we should consider that it was the exact opposite. Nobody made the NBA on the last few year’s teams and we all know Cheek, Fisher, Stokes and Armwood were over-rated coming out of HS. Even Mouph is developing slowly on offense. Kennedy’s spin move and score last night was something Mouph can’t even do now–in his junior year.

    On the other hand, I see this year’s underclass as all fundamentally sound basketball players with high athleticism. Ash, Hilliard and TJ can all dribble and shift directions better than Cheek and Kennedy will most likely be better than Mouph.

    I think the key to this year will be whether Bell can become more dominant off the dribble, driving to the basket, and if JVP can settle down and become a threat.

  • N34110

    There were some ‘good’ signs, not ‘could’.

  • http://twitter.com/Brian_Ewart Brian Ewart

    The ‘Cats went to the Elite 8 in 2006, after a successful inbounds play knocked off BC.

  • Popcity1

    Mouph played very well and got in great position down the stretch. He wanted the ball and didn’t get it. Get him the damn ball ! This and our reluctance to play the people who can defend the perimeter are what doomed this trip if we don’t rectify this it will doom the season but we have the ability to immediately address the situation. JW needs to tell Maalik that if Mouph has his man on his back and doesn’t get the ball he will be taken off the floor and follow through until Maalik gets the message. Get Yacoubou off the bench and into the game so that he and Bell can defend the perimeter. The starters should be Maalik,Yacoubou,Bell,Marcus and Mouph and we’ll grow and win. Defense and Playing team ball is PLAYING WITH PRIDE !

  • Jamnolla

    There is no substitute for victory. Where are the shooting guards that made Villanova famous and winners. We are not playing Villanova Basketbal, the opposition lately has.

  • Guglio

    Yes, they looked awful during their last two games, which caused them to drop to 4-2.  It is a young club; it is experimenting with freshman starters, freshman who were playing in their 5th and 6th games.  They have a long, long way to go before they cohere into a team, but I can’t believe that people who were feeling encouraged by wins over other cupcake teams two weeks ago are now so outraged.  What do you expect in November from a team that a) has no seniors, and b) has to fill holes with freshman?  Buck up buccaroos!

  • Jimdribble

    That is exactly right. If Malik does not get the ball to Mouph when he has position he comes out. Send a damn message. I never said fire Jay Wright but he needs to change and adapt to the reality of TEAM U not Guard U. Forget being enamored with guards and this will be a good team. They have the pieces.

  • Kish19044

    Jay Kotite lost that game. 

  • Jimdribble

    I also ask the question what would Bobby Knight or Coach K do if the bench did not know how many fouls the team had? Heads would roll. Each assistant of Coach K’s has specific roles and nothing goes uncovered.   How many suits are on the Villanova bench? Watch a game sometimes you have people charting everything on the bench.  Even I knew that they had no fouls to give and my math stinks LOL. Do you think Bobby Knight would put up with a point guard who does not feed the post? No way. There are no excuses for losing two games up by 3 in regulation in less than a year.

  • Kish19044

    Flawed logic. 

    The core players are now JUNIORS!!   Do you remember the 2nd ranked recruiting class in the NATION? 

  • Barney Rubble

    And the 5th starter is BELL a kid who started every game for Team USA U19 last summer.   Was that a gift that James didn’t deserve or are the Santa Clara players just better than the Lithuanians?    You can argue which Villanova players were over-rated but the vast majority of the Wildcat roster has better pedigree than what they lost to the past two games.   Players can be coached up or down and we have seen too much of the latter in recent years. 

    Keep the Wagner College Basketball office on speed dial for the next Head Coaching opening or do we let Wright drag this stubborn charade out until he reaches 600 wins in 2030 like they did for Harry Perretta..  If you can’t or WON’T adjust as a coach, you need to find another job.  
    Parcells is correct that if you are the one shopping for the groceries then YOU are resposible for cooking the meal.  Jay picked the players and the coaches here and Nova fans are getting food poisoning.  
    The guy talked a whole lot of bull in the offseason about using his big men and then went back to much of he same annoying crap.  

    Next up…PENN.   Any guesses how many of their players could make the Villanova roster as a scholarship player?    The new “closest to the pin” contest should also include picking the opposing player who will have a CAREER day vs Villanova.      

  • Kish19044

    During the radio broadcast they said that Nova played their best defense of the year at the end of the first half when Wayns was on the bench with 2 fouls. 

  • Kish19044

    Jay Kotite.

  • Kish19044

    Yarou was not a McDonalds AA but he was the highest rated out of the players.  

  • Kish19044

    Nova clearly has more talent but some of their McDonalds AAs were overrated.  Pinkston really struggles in the AA game.    Reynolds was overrated.  He never had NBA skills.  He was slow,  could not shoot,   did not have great size and did not play great defense. 

  • Kish19044

    Jay Kotite. 

  • Grimiii

    Mc Donalds AA is a politics game… Not saying they aren’t good players but it doesn’t translate to guaranteed wins or success

  • Grimiii

    Mc Donalds AA is a politics game… Not saying they aren’t good players but it doesn’t translate to guaranteed wins or success

  • Barney Rubble

    The Hurley brothers might want to move up from Wagner College and they know the recruiting region as well as anyone. 

    Wright might have built the program back up (while putting us on NCAA recruiting sanctions) but Steve Lappas also built the program back up after Rollie left the cupboard bare.    

    BTW, Jay Wright is coaching himself out of the job.   No  one is forcing him to be this stubborn about making obvious adjustments.  He spent the the presaeson telling everyone that changes were afoot and then the same nauseating mistakes are seen game after game.  

  • Barney Rubble

    The Hurley brothers might want to move up from Wagner College and they know the recruiting region as well as anyone. 

    Wright might have built the program back up (while putting us on NCAA recruiting sanctions) but Steve Lappas also built the program back up after Rollie left the cupboard bare.    

    BTW, Jay Wright is coaching himself out of the job.   No  one is forcing him to be this stubborn about making obvious adjustments.  He spent the the presaeson telling everyone that changes were afoot and then the same nauseating mistakes are seen game after game.  

  • Rick19

    Why would Scottie be in the NBA now if he had left after his freshman year?  Did he get smaller, slower or become a worse shooter or ballhandler in three more years in a Nova uniform?  He isn’t even making it in the backwaters of pro basketball at this point.  If he truly regressed during his time on the Main Line, maybe you are on to something here.

  • Rick19

    I expect them to beat teams that they are better than.

  • mprams

    He was a projected 1st round pick after his freshman year.  I don’t think he really “regressed” but after his freshman year scouts realized he was too slow to play point guard and too small to play the 2. 

  • Popcity1

    Ash Yacoubou STONE COLD WINNER and that translates ask Brandon Triche,Dante Taylor,Durand Scott and Dom Cheek … He will do whatever it takes to win!

  • Barney Rubble

    St Louis  83  
    Oklahoma 63 

    The Billikens shot 60% from the field including 52.9% from the arc (9-17).   Scored the last 10 points of the 1st half to take a 39-30 half-time lead and then ran away in the 2nd half. 

  • FruitLoops

    I looked at a list of D-1 coaches and came up with a list of 3 realistic candidates.

    Dan Hurley – Wagner (as Barney mentioned above)
    Rick Byrd- Belmont
    Gregg Marshall- Wichita St.

  • Barney Rubble

    …not from the bench he won’t.  
    Like the lottery man says…You gotta play to win.

  • Cord

    Please explain to me the year’s of not being able to defend the perimeter.
    Please explain to me the year’s of being unable to inbound the ball.
    Please explain to me the inablity to get the ball to the post
    Please explain to me the inablity to score out of a timeout.
    Please explain to me the too numerous to mention possessions of ponding the air out of the ball and going 1 on 5 against the shot clock.
    Answer these and I’ll give you 10 more Mr. Naismith

  • FruitLoops

    I think we’re not mad about the loss itself, but the fact that we we’re winning and controlling the entire game, and then the game was thrown away in a matter of seconds/1 minute.  Not wanting to speak for everyone, at least from my standpoint I don’t mind losing as long as the game wasn’t thrown away.  It’s a recurring theme.

    Santa Clara game
    USF- last year BE tourney
    Rutgers- Corey Fisher fouls 3 pt shooter
    2010 NCAA tournament- Handout from refs against Robert Morris, blew it against St Mary’s

    It’s a trend, not the individual game itself.  We pull for the team, but execution is piss poor

  • Spot ck

    “there 3 guards dominated the game, they not only scored but got in to us, we couldn’t get around
    them”. Love those guards. College basketball is all about guards.(JW)

    I thought we played pretty well.(JW)

  • http://twitter.com/Brian_Ewart Brian Ewart

    He certainly wouldn’t be fired after this season, FWIW. Would the Hurley’s be in the picture? I don’t really know. The last coach Villanova hired from outside the “family” was Rollie Massimino. Lappas and Wright were both hired primarily due to their connections to the program in the past, and that seems to be a major consideration for Villanova when it comes to coaching hires.

    As for the Hurleys, they are only .500 at Wagner so far. 5-1 start this season is good, but they aren’t established at the college level at all just yet, and I’m not sure you can declare Dan Hurley a better game coach than Jay Wright until he produces some consistent results in college.

    He’s still pretty green as a low-major coach and a massive risk for any major program.

  • Barney Rubble

    WANTED:    blah blah blah. 

    Somewhere in NJ, Reggie Cameron (2013) sits on a pile of recruiting letters that gets higher by the week.  He is 6’7/6’8 forward and can rain threes in bunches and has been doing so since middle school.
    And Villanova was on him early in the process. 
    We got 4 or 5 scholarships for that recruiting class so Close the deal.   

  • Barney Rubble

    WANTED:    blah blah blah. 

    Somewhere in NJ, Reggie Cameron (2013) sits on a pile of recruiting letters that gets higher by the week.  He is 6’7/6’8 forward and can rain threes in bunches and has been doing so since middle school.
    And Villanova was on him early in the process. 
    We got 4 or 5 scholarships for that recruiting class so Close the deal.   

  • Spot ck

    They have played teams with more starting freshman.

    Talk about flawed logic.

    ESPN- Villanova, last year all rolled up into 1 game!

    Outraged??? The players should be outraged for the total lack of preparation and the continued
    embarrassment and humiliation on national TV losing to teams with inferior talent and superior coaching!

  • Spot ck

    Right!
    Won’t happen.
    Jay Wright.

  • Rick19

    Looks like they are ticketed for the Final 4.

    Wait until we all see what Missouri is going to do to us.

  • ZAB

    Bring back Chambers!

  • Rick19

    You are kind of making my point mprams.  It was embedded in my sarcasm.  Scottie was unbelievable as a freshman.  But what happened to him?  How could that guy who could score at will as a freshman become the guy who couldn’t throw it into the ocean down the home stretch of his senior year.  Players are supposed to get better as they get older and more experienced.  What happened to this guy?

  • Spot ck

    Jim, have you read JW’s comments about the game??

    Please read them, you will then understand why what you are saying is not possible.

    Not possible. His words not mine. Please read them. Very insightful.

  • Rick19

    Pinkston was awful in the AA game.  I actually started to worry that we was grossly overrated when I saw him play in that game.  And I know that game is awful and not always the best way to see if a player is good or not but it was pretty clear in watching that game that he didn’t belong on the court with the others.  And it is proving itself out now.

  • Spot ck

    Disagree!

    It’s coaching, we shall see what we shall see.

    Condemn the fans and the players,not the 2million man!!

    Interesting concept.

  • Richard’90

    Well, if we can’t get better recruits IN the Big East, it is painful to think what will happen if the Big East collapses and we are left in a minor conference like the A 10.

  • Rick19

    How about the guy from Santa Clara who just out coached him?  How about Majerus who just out coached him?  The guys from LaSalle (twice) and Delaware kept games with us close with far less talent than we have.

    The real ironic thing to this from my vantage point is that I actually like Jay.  I want him to succeed.  I really do.  Frankly, I don’t count myself among those who think he should be fired.  I do, however, think that he needs a serious wake up call.  Regardless of the personnel on the team and his coaching staff (granted it is still early in this group’s tenure) we continue to see the same issues.  The finger can only be pointed in one direction. 

  • Spot ck

    Elite,check the last 10 years + 6 this year.

    Please, Elite!!

     Knowledgeable Experienced Basketball Panel. ( Yes, Larry Brown would be on that panel.)

    The football Brian is Charge, full steam ahead!!

    The Basketball Brian is sit on your hands, something might go wrong!!!

    I think you would be surprised at the Big Time basketball names that would gladly be on the panel.

    The basketball community is much smaller than footballs and rather closely knit.

    Maybe, just maybe JW could make MEANINFUL changes,stay and own up to his shortcomings (we all
    have them) and continue on with a more experienced, responsible team of coaches.

    It is not a felony to have an open discussion on the merits and status of your teams coaching staff.

    For the benefit of the program and the players, a review of where we are and where we want to go
    seems to be in order.

    Jay knows where he is and what’s expected of him.I was rooting for his changes to make a substantial
    difference. It’s early,we are all hoping!!

    ESPN- Main News Desk. “Villanova’s last season all wrapped-up in one game”.
    This is coverage we don’t need, it’s painful in more ways than meets the eye.

  • TK87

    I bet Larry Brown could help out here.  I wonder what he does when he comes to practice.  He must whisper something in Jay’s ear.

    The offense is inconsistent and the point guard play is not very smart – and Nova always has extremely talented PGs, thanks to Jay’s recruiting.

    The talent on the team is there. For some reason, they haven’t been able to take their games to the next level. Not sure if that is the players or coaches fault. Probably 25% fault lies with the players and their desire to get better and 75% with the coaches for not teaching better.

  • Hardcore fan

    The little I watched that kid Conklin always led with the elbows. No wonder our kids got so upset.  If that is not an offensive foul we should teach it to Kennedy fast.  Win by quick TKO ala Mike Tyson.   

  • Hardcore fan

    Don’t forget George Mason last years NCAA tournament.

  • Hardcore fan

    The good recruiters get that announcement from a major recruit right about now (when things look bleak).

  • Doctorfeelgoodes

    nova hoops, where promising young men learn to be airball chucking head cases in four short years!!!

  • Barney Rubble

    The coverage could be worse. 

    “It’s all about the D!#K”  <—- now that's a quote that won't be helping Syracuse recruiting this year.  Ouch.
    I hope Boeheim has a replacement lined up to take his job.   He will get hammered if all these allegations against Fine hold up.    

  • Jim89

    That begs the question – isn’t someone on the bench responsible for keeping a game book?  When I coached 12 year olds after I got out of college, I always had a friend or parent on the bench as an “assistant” that kept stats.  It allowed the kids to know how they did, and also allowed me to know if there were foul problems or other things to worry about.

    I can’t believe college and pro teams don’t do something similar?

  • Doctorfeelgoodes

    will these kids ripen or spoil? lately, our all americans have folded, not panned out or for some other reason, been disappointing. is it coaching? poor scheming? bad recruiting? sooner or later you have to question the program & not the kids.

  • Spot ck

    40pts. as a freshman at UCONN. (Fearless)

    Left with his very spirit broken.

  • Popcity1

    My point exactly !  Does JW really want to win or does he just try not to lose! That mindset is the difference between winning and losing .

  • Spot ck

    It’s your team, you are the senior Pt-G. JW then goes on and talks incessantly about the responsibility
    of that Pt-G, he never lets up.
    People buy into that line of BS and seem to forget Mr. Wright is the senior leader, responsible for the
    team and it’s performance.

  • Spot ck

    Bet??

  • Doctorfeelgoodes

    he is precisely the kind of kid we need. a little dirty, yet smart enough to be legal. i read his comments in an interview following the vu game & he basically was laughing at how he able to both mentally & physically controll us. he relished the fact that he frustrated our guys. thats who i want on my team!!!

  • Doctorfeelgoodes

    he is precisely the kind of kid we need. a little dirty, yet smart enough to be legal. i read his comments in an interview following the vu game & he basically was laughing at how he able to both mentally & physically controll us. he relished the fact that he frustrated our guys. thats who i want on my team!!!

  • Spot ck

    Agree, he had a chance with the new coaches.

    Sorry, he has a blind spot in his introspection!

    If he looked and sounded like Steve Lappas,easy decision.

  • Spot ck

    Agree, he had a chance with the new coaches.

    Sorry, he has a blind spot in his introspection!

    If he looked and sounded like Steve Lappas,easy decision.

  • http://twitter.com/Brian_Ewart Brian Ewart

    I’m just saying, lets not call for Jay Wright’s head unless you KNOW you can do better.

    Offensively, Wright isn’t preaching players to go one-on-one with their defender this season. I spoke to him about that and he told me he thinks the ‘Cats have to become a better passing team this season. Even then, offense isn’t really the issue – the ‘Cats are ranked 19th in offense, but only 101 in defensive efficiency!

    They are not generating enough turnovers and they are letting opponents get too many open looks from 3. Are those things that Wright can improve? Sure. Should the ‘Cats replace him tomorrow? I think he’s earned a longer leash than that.

    Lets see where the ‘Cats are at the end of the season before we warm the burners under Wright’s seat.

  • Spot ck

    I admire your struggle,if things don’t change, your heart and knowledge of the game will win out and
    the struggle will be lost.

    I’m rooting for you,but Vegas has taken the struggle off the board. Sorry I agree with Vegas.

  • Spot ck

    Being repetitive, agree on all points. Good job of making it clear and simple to understand!!

  • FruitLoops

    Good catch, and you’re right that one was hard to watch too.

  • Spot ck

    Well said without any venom or BS.

    Right on!

  • Mddcny

    I think a few of those recruits in A10 and WCC just spanked our Big East recruits asses….thanks to some of that very good mid-major coaching.

  • Mddcny

    sigh….we couldn’t get around Santa Clara’s guards and according to JW, we couldn’t defend Saint Louis guards….so, what’s left for Missouri’s guards? hmm…maybe guard them with Moupf, Kennedy and Sutton?

  • Mddcny

    sigh….we couldn’t get around Santa Clara’s guards and according to JW, we couldn’t defend Saint Louis guards….so, what’s left for Missouri’s guards? hmm…maybe guard them with Moupf, Kennedy and Sutton?

  • Spot ck

    And it looks like they are going to hold up.

    I always rooted for the Big 5 teams(not always the Hawks) and I lived through the point shaving
    scandal. It was painful and to see what it did to Ramsey hurt.I was never a Ramsey fan (over-rated)
    but I was rooting for him then. I never noticed a thing and I was a BB hound. You never saw anything
    resembling what we did against Santa Clara. Much more subtle.That’s one good thing,the way we
    crash,point shaving is out of the question.

    What’s going on now is ugly and your right, it could be a lot worse!!

  • Dom

    Brian.. any recruiting news yet in football?

  • Spot ck

    Please “E” mail to Jay Wright!!

  • Spot ck

    Please “E” mail to Jay Wright!!

  • Spot ck

    Please “E” mail to Jay Wright!!

  • Dom

    Good Post.  Wonder how the big guys feel with Wrights’ comment, “College basketball is all about guards”.  Way to motivate Jay.  ” I thought we played pretty well”. Yeah right, except when it counted.

  • Jj

    Wayns should be benched–taught a lesson about being a point guard. Face it, JW a terrible game coach. Freshman are playing on teams all over the country not something unique to Nova. It’s just going to be a long frustrating year watching a lot of talented players underachieve

  • Greatgoldengod

    The sky is falling sentiment which predominates here is retarded.

    This is a young team that needs some time to gel; none of them have seen very much court time together.  I’ll take these losses now because they will make us more competitive down the stretch.   We’ve got so many long athletic guys who can guard just about any position on the floor, they just have to figure out when to switch off on their man.  The perimeter defense will improve. 

    Come March I expect this team to be playing basketball which places them squarely in the middle of the Big East.  Given the competitiveness of the conference, that’s not a bad place to be. 

  • Jj

    the perrimeter defense was terible last year and the same this year so why do you thinkn it will improve ?

  • Greatgoldengod

    Anyone who suggests that Jay Wright should be fired is an idiot.  The team has had more success under his watch than it did under Lappas and — dare I say it — Massimino.  How many straight years has the team made the tournament?  How many years did the team outpace the expectations of analysts. 

    The year that we went to the Final Four, Wright did a phenomenal job; he got stellar performances out of some pretty average players.  

    If I were a recruit and I read this blog I’d leave with the impression that you guys are a bunch of smug, entitled, pricks who don’t know a thing about basketball. 

  • Rick19

    I think that’s just a tad unfair to say that we have to know that we can do better than Jay.  Like it or not, he has one of those very well paying public jobs.  And the criticism that goes with it when he screws up.  Guys like me and the rest of the crew on this site are accountants and sales reps, etc and nobody cares about what we do except for our bosses.  But, what I do know is that if I continued to make the same mistakes or if I didn’t correct deficiencies in my organization, I would have a new e-mail address pretty quickly.  My point is that’s life for me and the other critics and it’s life for Jay.

    Remember that I said earlier that I very badly want the guy to succeed.  But even you have to admit that the same issues regardless of who the players are has to get some attention.  It is pretty clear that they are doing something wrong and until they admit that and change their approach, things won’t get better and me and all of the other maniacs will still be on here complaining about him.

    If he’s not good at the X’s and O’s, get somebody who is.  Give up on the notion that your point guard is always going to be your number 1 star.  If you sign John Wall, fine, he can be our star.  If not, maybe it should be a forward or a center.

    My last point on what I hate about our team (I will stop until we see what happens against Penn) is that this team has got to figure out how to get more easy baskets.  Somebody else mentioned it in a post that with all of these athletic 6’5″ guys on the team, we should be running more and getting some easier looks.  I think that would help a lot.  Watch Missouri play.  I keep touting Missouri and saying they are going to kill us.  I am hoping that the reverse psychology takes place and we actually pound them so everybody can call me an idiot on here.  I would happily take that trade.  But again, my point is watch the way they play.  I think our team could play the same kind of game if they were so inclined.  That would be fun for the fans and the players.

    Go Cats!

  • Rick19

    If that describes the rest of us, what does the handle Greatgoldengod say about you?  I say welcome to the club of smug, entitled pricks.

  • Joegrane

    That’s not close to being true.  He had a much better second half his freshman year.  He seemed to always play well at the Garden.  UNC respected him so much that they denied him the ball in the second half of the Final 4 game.  He was injured much of the second half of his Senior year.

  • Greatgoldengod

    The sky is falling sentiment which predominates here is retarded. This
    is a young team that needs some time to gel; none of them have seen
    very much court time together.  I’ll take these losses now because they
    will make us more competitive down the stretch.   We’ve got so many long
    athletic guys who can guard just about any position on the floor, they
    just have to figure out when to switch off on their man.  The perimeter
    defense will improve.  Come March I expect this team to be
    playing basketball which places them squarely in the middle of the Big
    East.  Given the competitiveness of the conference, that’s not a bad
    place to be.

    Anyone who suggests that Jay Wright should be fired is an
    idiot.  The team has had more success under his watch than it did under
    Lappas and — dare I say it — Massimino.  How many straight years has
    the team made the tournament?  How many years did the team outpace the
    expectations of analysts. 

    The year that we went to the Final
    Four, Wright did a phenomenal job; he got stellar performances out of
    some pretty average players.  

    If I were a recruit and I read
    this blog I’d leave with the impression that you guys are a bunch of
    smug, entitled, pricks who don’t know a thing about basketball. 

  • Greatgoldengod

    Because the personnel who will see substantial minutes this year are longer and more athletic; they should be able to switch off on ball screens and defend any position on the floor.  They just need to learn how to do it, which takes a bit of time!

  • Greatgoldengod

    It’s a handle that I use to post on the internet.  Whatevs …

    The point is that you guys are calling for Jay Wright’s head.  If you fired a guy as successful as him, who’d want the position.  It’s short sighted and stupid.  ‘Nova is a young inexperienced team that will be playing well by the spring.  Analysts will actually expect them to do some great things next season.  

  • Greatgoldengod

    St Louis is a senior-laden team that will contend to win the A-10 and will make some noise in the tournament.  We weren’t their first victim and we won’t be the last.

  • Greatgoldengod

     Rick, Dante Cunningham might disagree with your assessment.  He progressed nicely during his tenure here.   Foye and Lowry are successful NBA players.  Ray probably could have been one if making money wasn’t a bigger priority. 

    Wright couldn’t change the fact that Scottie Reynolds was too small to play the 2 and too slow to play the point. Scottie played well enough here to finish an All-American – which is a hell of an accomplishment any way you look at it.  He finished his senior season with a crappy couple of games — that happens.  A year prior to that he was solid throughout ‘Nova’s Final Four run and hit one of the greatest shots in ‘Nova history.  None of that helped his draft stock because scouts saw him for what he was — a college — not NBA  — level talent.

  • Greatgoldengod

    Also, Scottie scored tons as a Freshman because ‘Nova needed him to; it didn’t have any other scoring options.  By the time he was a senior, Cunningham had developed, Anderson had found an offensive game, Fisher was emerging, and Stokes could hit from the perimeter. 

    Who did Scottie have to lighten his load as a  freshman?

  • Spot ck

    Brian,
    Please, I agree, I’m not calling for a mid-season firing for God’s sake!!

    The burners under JW’s seat were already warm at the start of the season.
    Jay knows that the heat has been elevated, I just hope the coaching changes aren’t window dressing.

    You have read the posts, some are outrageous (popping-off) but let’s be fair, there are some very well
    thought-out, rational posts calling for a change IF things don’t take a different course this season.

    The Santa Clara game was eerily similar to the historic collapse of last year and for that matter make it
    two years. You can’t fault the fans for being restless at the start of the season considering our recent
    history.

    Brian, when it’s time to make a change you go about it in a disciplined, thoughtful way using all the
    tools and input at your disposal.

    Of course you think you are making a positive change, but then you know the risk, is it worth taking.

    It’s sports, you do your best and play the game!!

    I’m rooting for JW,however I don’t think from what I have seen that VU’s best interest is being served
    by having JW as our Head Coach.(Things could change,hopefully)

  • Mddcny

    thanks, great one.

  • Mddcny

    thanks, great one.

  • Rick19

    My reaction was only in response to the comment that after his freshmen year he would have been a first round draft pick.  Do we really think the NBA people are that dumb that it took them 3 more years to determine that Scottie was too small and too slow?

  • MatP

    JW has to stop running the shot clock down especially when the team is struggling offensively. It’s like a turnover when you put the ball in Wayns’ hands with time running out. Of course Wayns will throw up a contested shot at the end.  what else does he expect? Move the ball and look for a good shot.  feed the post every now and then while you’re at it.  I think they were playing ‘prevent’ offense with up only 6 with 3 min left.  that is playing not to lose.

  • Cord

    One never KNOWS they can do better Brian until its implemented. It is a quandry with JW as he brings so much to our program and definitly has catapulted us up in terms of recruits we get involved with. However when you say “elite” I think not. Look at our record against ranked teams. Look at our record against the upper echelon of the BE. Look at our record in the BE tourney. Some of the continuing flaws of this team are basketball 101 and should be glaring on tape to the point of someone saying hey why is this happening, we have to fix it. In your post above you say JW isn’t teaching his players to go one on one, I strongly disagree with that. He has never taught his players that, only his pg’s. Yes we are a better passing team than we’ve been in a long time. But do you honestly think anything else was happening at the end of that game than Wayns going 1 on 5. Look how Bell forced it to him after we inbounded it as he was standing midcourt with 3 defenders around him. In crucial times JW will revert to giving it to his guy to make a play instead of his team running something. You saw it when he inexplicably had Wayns pound 28 seconds away and then go late in the game when we were crucifying them on the glass. And when we are in that situation Wayns (and Fisher before him) will try to score regardless. It was very poor configuration to have 2 undersized score first pg’s. JW gives these guys carte blanche and then can’t pull it back. Think about Albert Pujols calling a hit and run in the 9th inning of a pivotal game in the WS–absurd. Doesn’t the manager want to dictate the play there. And Pujols is significantly wiser than Wayns yet he has that same endgame freedom. I have never understood why we are not better in transition and why we don’t get out more. This group has the numbers and horses to do that. Only Kennedy and JVP would suffer and the strength of Wayns game is going end to end. If we are going to play in the half court it has to be Moof focused. We especially can’t rely on 3′s as we do not have one consistent deep shooter who is going to stretch any defense. I mean think about it, when preparing for us does any coach say you can’t leave this shooter to help. I think not, in fact my sense is just the opposite–leave anybody to stop Wayns penetration and we win. And we are in a league with HOF coaches who adjust and remember. You are not going to win in this league with gimmicks.  

  • Kish19044

    I don’t think they have the pieces.        Yarou,   Bell,   Cheek,  Hilliard, and Wayns.    

    Who on the team can really shoot?   

    Who is the great PG who gets the rest of the team involved?   If Wayns was 6-4+ do you think he would even be a PG?   I think Wayns is a SF who is pigeonholed into playing PG becuase of his size.     I think most SGs are SFs who are pigeonholed into playing SG becuase of their size too.    Most of the SGs can’t even shoot.  

    Who is the  power forward?   Bell?

    VU has a ton of talent but most of the players are one dimensional and have huge flaws. 

  • Cord

    “Who is the great PG who gets the rest of the team involved?   If Wayns was 6-4+ do you think he would even be a PG?   I think Wayns is a SF who is pigeonholed into playing PG becuase of his size.”–way too many keystrokes kishet–simply “Wayns sucks” 

  • Kish19044

    Cord, 

    Does Wayns get the rest of the team involved in the offense or not?   

    What is the PGs primary job?

    I have been telling you the problem for a couple years now.   You keep living in denial.

    Don’t forget to post,  “Wayns is great”  after each LOSS. 

  • EG’77

    I agree that we can’t assume that the sky is falling after just 6 games and that this young team needs time to grow.  BUT .. I’ve seen Georgetown play three times this year.  Like our guys, they’re filling a number of big holes with younger players and Freshmen and are projected as a middle of the pack BE team. Unlike our guys, they’re passing and moving very well, playing smart and tough defense and seemingly really enjoyng themselves.  And you have to check the program to be sure that their Freshmen are Freshmen, because they don’t play that way. Confidence can be a fleeting thing. But JTIII’s team seems to have it.  Not sure about JW’s.

  • Spot ck

    Tip-off time gives you the opportunity to check out several teams. The games are all over ESPN for
    hours at a time.
    The color announcers are excellent and don’t hold back. When your good, your good, when your bad
    your bad and they let you know about it, refreshing to hear.

    VU’s play was as sloppy as it comes and the announcers let you know about it.(Not good for anyone
    especially recruiting. Ouch).

  • imisskylelowry

    I’m giving JW this season to prove he can correct the flaws.  No sense listing the flaws, we all stated them numerous times.

    I don’t even care about if we take the tournament… just show me you TRY to get fast break points, feed the post, refuse to settle for lazy in-bound plays, defend the perimeter, play hard-nosed defense w/o fouling…. damn I started listing them when I said I wouldn’t.

    I like Jay Wright and wouldn’t trade in the last 10+ years for anything.  That said, I know nothing will change.  He himself has said (paraphrasing this…) things like he doesn’t like too many plays, he wants his players to have clear heads rather than think about plays.  

    Re-read that.  He is recruiting smart kids that value an education as well, and a lot of these kids want to play in the NBA, where their coaches won’t be so easy on them.  He is doing his players a disservice if that is part of his philosophy.

    Prove me wrong Jay.  I want Nova to continue to blossom under your watch like they did from 2003 – mid way 2010.

  • Cord

    Kishiepoo I am going to say this one time only. Everyone knows your position on the pg. No one wants to hear your incessant crap about him anymore. He is not the problem in everything that is wrong with this team. You are like a little kid explaining why he can’t eat any of his meal because there is a piece of broccoli on his plate.
    FYI- I don’t think Wayns is great. I too think he is overrated
    The #1 job of the pg the last 5 years at least on our team has been to score the ball

  • Kish19044

    The flaws are the same flaws as last year.   Why didn’t Jay correct them last year?  

    Do you think Andy Reid will run the ball next year?

    Do you think Igoudala will develop a jump shot?  

    Maybe Donovan McNabb will develop some accuracy and Juan Samuel will layoff the slider. 

  • Kish19044

    Your point is weak.  The defense won’t improve.  If it was going to improve then why didn’t it improve from last season when the same exact problems existed?   

  • Barney Rubble

    The leading scorer in Scottie’s freshman year was Curtis Sumpter. 
    Scottie only led the team in scoring in his sophomore & senior seasons. 

  • Michaelr Powers

    Jay Wright is as good a coach/recruiter as there is in the Big East. Get off his back. Were lucky to have him and the foul situation wasn’t his fault as the score table person gave him the wrong info. He’ll have Villanova back in the Final Four within 3 to 4 seasons. 

  • Kish19044

    Most of the coaches in the BE are good recruiters.    The problem with Jay is his coaching.   Nova is struggling with teams who have less talent.   What do you think will happen when they play teams with more talent? 

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