The Wisdom of Crowds Poll Results

Posted by Ed '77 on November 17, 2011 · Under Polls · 18 Comments 

I received an amusing email on Friday from my VUHoops colleague, Brian, alerting me to an interesting article by Ken Pomeroy.  Ken, of course, is the creator of the popular college basketball website kenpom.com, which best known for its score predictions for college basketball games.  In Mr. Pomeroy’s post on  Friday, “Power to the People,” he describes the computer model he uses to predict college basketball scores as “a cold, unfeeling machine, incapable of incorporating emotional factors, injuries, and other unexpected circumstances that occur on a daily basis.”  He plans to break ‘new ground’ this year by applying principles discussed by James Surowiecki in his book The Wisdom of Crowds in an experiment to compare the accuracy of his computer’s predictions to the average of the predictions of those of a large crowd of sports fans to see which is more accurate.  I sent Ken an email Sunday suggesting he not waste his time.  We’ve been doing it for three years on VUHoops.com with good success in our two annual series — “The Wisdom of Crowds” and “Closest to the Pin.”

With that backdrop, we are particularly proud to announce  the results of our third annual “The Wisdom of Crowds” poll.

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As you recall, we applied Mr. Surowiecki principles by asking our VUHoops readers to predict which players will step up to replace 56% of last season’s offense produced by departed players Corey Fisher, Corey Stokes and Antonio Pena in a series of reader polls this fall.   The news is good for ‘Nova fans — the Cats should have exactly enough offense to make up the deficit.

Highlights of VUHoops Readers’ Predictions:

Villanova will score 72.2 PPG in this season vs. 72.3 PPG last season.

There will be a palpable shift in scoring with a greater portion coming from the forward/center position due to the expected emergence of Yarou’s offensive game:

Position 2011-12 2010-11 Change
Guard 63.8% 68.8% -4.9%
Forward 14.4% 16.9% -2.5%
Forward/Center 21.8% 14.3% 7.5%
100.0% 100.0% 0.0%

Offensive scoring will be reasonably well distributed, with the top three players (Wayns, Yarou and Cheek), accounting for 53% of the offense.

PPG BY PLAYER

The predicted increased scoring by ‘Nova’s big men  suggests a more balanced offensive attack, but not nearly enough balance to shed Villanova’s “Guard U” moniker.

PPG BY POSITON

Underclassmen Pinkston, Johnson and Bell will pick up most of the offense lost to the departures of Fisher, Stokes, Pena and Armwood.  Wayns and Sutton will pick up the least.   In the case of Mr. Wayns, one can only hope this is because he approaches the game this year with a “pass-first” mentality.

DEFICIT BUSTERS

With most of the 40.8 PPG lost to departing players coming from the guard position (Fisher / Stokes accounted for 28.7 PPG), it comes as no surprise that replacement of that scoring will primarily come from the guard position in Jay Wright’s guard-oriented offense.

DEFICIT BUSTERS BY POSITION

Computational Methodology: A record total 1,939 votes were cast for the in this year’s poll. To calculate the PPG for each player, we first calculated the mid-point for each voting choice for the individual players. Next, we computed the weighted average PPG for each player based on the mid-points and the number of votes cast for each voting option.  One methodology change was made in this year’s poll.  We normalized the PPG predictions for each player based on the readers’ predicted team PPG.  We believe this  will eliminate player PPG inflation evident in last year’s  poll.

When the season comes to a close, we will take a look to see how accurate our predictions were.    What do you think — is there wisdom in the VUHoops crowd?

Do you agree with the results of the Wisdom of Crowds Poll?

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  • LM 92

    From the first 2 games and Europe tour, I think Hilliard’s numbers need to go up, Suttons, Johnsons and maybe Yacoubou’s go down.

  • Hardcore fan

    Neither the Pitt fans nor any program got Pitt’s last game score correct.

  • Bill ’77

    Interesting stuff … but way too sophisticated for this liberal arts major.

  • LM 92

    I have 6-8 Villanova vs. Delaware football tickets for Saturday. Great seats around the 40 yd line. price was $40 per ticket, but willing to listen to any offers. Can meet at game (we’ll be there tailgating at around 1pm for the 3:30pm kickoff), or if you live in South Jersey, can make arrangements to pick them up.

  • ot

    I would say that most of the points will need to be from the forward and center position since it may take some time for Wayns to work in tandem with another guard who has developed shooting touch. To succeed in the Big East, Wayns will need to penetrate and find an open man close to the basket. When teams back off, he will need to make some 3-point shots. If Hilliard can later develop consistency in his shot, Villanova should have laudable winning season in the Big East. If the preference is for 1 on 1 play, the team will likely not win later in the season as others improve their team play.

  • Stankbirds

    This is very interesting, up my alley as far as my schooling at VU in engineering, finance/modeling. LM I think you are right about an uptick in our predicted numbers for Hilliard, assuming he continues to get significant PT. TJ still needs to gain strength back in the foot he broke this summer but you’re right I don’t know if he’ll reach that 6.27 PPG VUHoops predicted.
    Should be fun to watch

  • LM 92

    is your name an Eagles’ reference?

  • http://twitter.com/TheMonzinator Pretty Toney

    agree that sutton, johnson, and yacoubou need to go down.

  • Stankbirds

    it was made on the fly when I signed up for a yahoo account for fantasy sports ~10 yrs ago, but yes eagles, and it is just a coincidence my name accurately reflects the eagles status

  • Stankbirds

    it was made on the fly when I signed up for a yahoo account for fantasy sports ~10 yrs ago, but yes eagles, and it is just a coincidence my name accurately reflects the eagles status

  • Joegrane

    Re Wisdom of Crowds Poll.  I think we underestimated Hilliard, either in terms of talent or maybe just how he fits into what Jay want to do with this team. I hope Tyrone develops in a timely fashion or Wayns could frequently be limited by foul trouble.  We also want Wayns to have plenty of energy remaining for the final minutes of games.  Last year we did not have someone who frequently made big plays in the final minutes.  Fatigue from the high number of minutes played plus nagging injuries might have been big factors.  It might also be that we were spoiled by Scottie’s knack for making big plays in big spots.

  • mprams

    Didn’t you purposely elongate that photo to make the girls look thinner?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5DRWOOB436JQT2WKM46C5UBQ2U honey badger

    Ed, I love your work, but please do us a favor and stop abusing us with that picture of those chunky girls.

  • Ed’77

    HB, thanks for the kind words.  Chunky?  At my age, they look pretty good to me!

  • Hardcore fan

    Fun for all ages!

  • Sandy

    Sutton played 7 minutes at the end of the game and was responsible for the win. How many minutes do you want to take away from him.
    If JW is going to play 8-9 players Nova needs to wear teams out will a little full court pressure and Mo Sutton is the guy I want in the back line.

  • Anonymous

    Villanova in, National Championship out.

  • Ailurophile

    Sandy,

    I agree with your comments about the value of Sutton.  However I think one of us misunderstood the other postings.  I read them as meaning his PPG as projected by the survey should be lowered…not that his minutes played should be reduced.

    I see Sutton’s role/value as defense and rebounding on both ends…any scoring is gravy.  BTW, during his 7 minutes, he also contributed one of the 8 VU assists for the entire game.

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